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Old 11-12-2007, 12:05 AM
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Free Will Song????

I saw this a while back but thought some of you may not have seen it yet...



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Old 11-12-2007, 12:23 AM
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I've seen it a few times before. It's so stereotypically lame that it almost seems like a spoof made by a bunch of Calvinists. I really wish it was.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:56 AM
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"I give you freedom . . . is it 'yes' or 'no'?" Hmmmmmm.

I Give You Freedom (The Whippoorwill Song)

I set the boundries of the ocean vast,
Carved out the mountains from the distant past,
Moulded a man from the miry clay,
Breathed in him life, but he went astray.

CHORUS:
I own the cattle on a thousand hills,
I write the music for the whippoorwills,
Control the planets with their rocks and rills,
But give you freedom to use your own will.

And if you want Me to, I’ll make you whole,
I’ll only do it tho’ if you say so.
I’ll never force you, for I love you so,
I give you freedom - Is it “yes” or “no”?

I hold the waters in My mighty hand
Spread out the heavens with a single span,
Make all creation tremble at My voice,
But My own children come to Me by choice.
(chorus)

Even the oxen knows the master’s stall,
And sheep will recognize the shepherd’s call
I could demand your love - I own you twice,
But only willing love is worth the price!
(chorus)

My holy word now I give to you,
As a shining lamp to guide you through,
My yoke is easy and My burden is light,
Keep looking up, your Heavenly home’s in sight.
(chorus)

If you really want to hear it done, Gayle Edward Russ's "Down Home" (2005) has it as cut #8. The Tillman Trio does the song with full orchestration in their album, "Grace for the Journey," cut #12.

My favorite part can be found in the words . . .

And if you want Me to, I’ll make you whole,
I’ll only do it tho’ if you say so.
I’ll never force you, for I love you so,
I give you freedom - Is it “yes” or “no”?

When you hear it said that baldly, it really makes those of us who are former Arminians cringe in red-faced embarrassment.
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I wrote an Arminian rendition in Common Meter, to the tune of Amazing Grace once :
Quote:
“Deficient Grace”

Verse 1: Total Depravity Terminated

On neutral ground, I’ll make my choice
Detached from death in sin
Able to see iniquity
And will myself to him

Verse 2: Unconditional Election Conditioned

Twas grace that made me savable
But did not make it sure
It took my will to make it real
And it may not endure

Verse 3: Limited Atonement Limited

The blood he shed, he shed for all
A mere symbol of his love
Held no real pow’r in of itself
Just vain hope from above

Verse 4: Irresistible Grace Resisted

This god is but a gentleman
Not wanting to intrude
We have rejected o’er and o’er
While he, for us, has wooed

Verse 5: Perseverance of the Saints Perished

I willed myself to be redeemed
On one of my smart days
So if I sin badly enough
I’ll probably fall away

or

Alternate Verse 5:

Though he’s big enough to justify
And hold me in his hand
I’m strong enough to leave his grip
And thwart his pseudo-plan
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It's so stereotypically lame that it almost seems like a spoof made by a bunch of Calvinists. I really wish it was.


I had to fight laughter it was so, so bad. You could almost use it with an Arminian to show him just how stupid the idea sounds.
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I saw this a while back but thought some of you may not have seen it yet...



YouTube - Free Will Song
Why would I want to?
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I saw this a while back but thought some of you may not have seen it yet...



YouTube - Free Will Song
Why would I want to?
Its a good case study in Arminian worship practices maybe?

I can respect your point though.
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My heart breaks for these young men and women. It looks a lot like Pensacola Christian College. I went through a school similar to that and I am thankful that the Lord called me out of that error. May God be gracious to these young men and women and bring them out of error and into truth.
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My heart breaks for these young men and women. It looks a lot like Pensacola Christian College. I went through a school similar to that and I am thankful that the Lord called me out of that error. May God be gracious to these young men and women and bring them out of error and into truth.
I was about to make a "smart-mouth" comment till I saw Bill's comment. I grew up Methodist.....so I sang a lot of free-will hymns. Bill is right it is sad. These are well meaning people....and they do feel that they honor Christ. Best approach....Pray that they may see the true teaching of Scripture.
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My heart breaks for these young men and women. It looks a lot like Pensacola Christian College.
Indeed, I believe it is.
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Does the next songs belongs to the same categori:

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