Just announced that James White will be debating Bart Erhman on:

"Does the Bible Misquote Jesus?"

"Can the New Testament be inspired in the light of Textual Vatiation?"

Alpha and Omega 2009 Cruise

Alpha and Omega Ministries, The Christian Apologetics Ministry of James R. White

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Matthew Morales
Santa Rosa, CA
Redeemer Presbyterian Church
"Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth" John 17:17 (ESV)

"Judge not the Lord by feeble sense,
But trust Him for his grace;
Behind a frowning providence
He hides a smiling face"
-William Cowper

Well, it was announced earlier today. I forgot ya'll cared about that stuff, I was complaining in channel earlier that Doc only schedules cruises in the middle of the semester.

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Andrew DeShazo, Deacon, Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, Memphis, TN
"All of us stumble in many ways, but if anyone is never at fault in what he says, then he is mature, able to control his whole body."(James 3:2)

I'm a BIG fan of James White. But, wowie, zowie, Bart Erhman??? That ought to be one interesting debate. With his diploma from Moody and B.A. from Wheaton, Bart certainly knows the lingo and logic of evangelical Christianity.

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Dennis E. McFadden, Ex Mainline Baptist (in Remission)
Atherton Baptist Homes, CEO
First Baptist Church of Alhambra, Member, Transformation Ministries (CA)

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Zenas, Where is Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, Memphis, TN?

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Sean Caouette
Independent Presbyterian Church (PCA)
Memphis, Tennessee

It's a denomination (I know we're small and all but come on!). The church I am a member at is Richland A.R.P. up near Millington. My pastor was actually ordained PCA, but came to the ARP to pastor our current church.

Consequently, I know many people who attend your church. Not the least of which are my fiance's brother and sister-in-law.

That's why I couldn't find it in Google Maps. I just joined with my family and really enjoy it. Did you ever attend River Oaks in Germantown?

Once or twice. I'm friends with the sons of both the Gibsons and the Scotts. I looked at Riveroaks when looking for a church, but ultimately ended up here. I love Ford Williams. He was the RUF campus minister for my RUF campus minister when he was in college.

This will be an awesome debate. I want it now!

But I guess James White will be going over Erhman's stuff on the Dividing Line (which besides his Islam stuff I love the most) to prepare. The direction James White is taking his ministry is spot on in my opinion!

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Mark Maney
Kwanglim Korean Methodist Church - 1689'er Baptist Pastor (read profile for more info)
Master of Theological Studies emphasis Biblical Studies
Trinity Western University, ACTS Seminaries
Surrey, BC. (Vancouver), Canada

It's nice to know a PB member in Memphis. To the OP: sorry for hijacking the thread.

There are actually 3 or 4 PBers in Memphis.

Good to know.

hey andrew...did you hear that pratt is going to be interim pastor at IPC in midtown??

also, we should connect sometime up for a brew...I'm off Canada Rd in Lakeland.

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Joel Batts
Christ Presbyterian Church (PCA) - Memphis, TN

"Why wasn't God watching? Why wasn't God listening? Why wasn't God there for Georgia Lee?"
- Tom Waits
But you, O God, do see trouble and grief;you consider it to take it in hand. The victim commits himself to you; you are the helper of the fatherless. - Psalm 10:14

Thanks for the heads up Mathew. I appreciate it. My brother gave me Bart Erhman's book for Christmas, as if I thought it would be [i]real[i] scholarly work. Hmm Bart , Barth? connection maybe?? Off-topic, man, y'all are lucky to have a few good presbyterian church's to choose from. Is coveting thy neighbor's church breaking a commandment??

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Timothy Johnson
First United Presbyterian of Moline
PCUSA (Yea, I know)
Theology/Philosophy Sunday School Teacher
Davenport, IA

Wow...this should be a tough debate for James. Of course, he's standing on the truth so I believe he should win, but Ehrman is a brilliant, brilliant scholar who despite being outside of orthodoxy still knows the evangelical mindset and lingo.

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Ranger
SBC, but personally confess the 1689 LBCF
Yunnan, China

"If we regularly beheld the glory of Christ, our Christian walk with God would become more sweet and pleasant, our spiritual light and strength would grow daily stronger and our lives would more gloriously represent the glory of Christ. Death would be most welcome to us." - John Owen

You're kidding. I live maybe 5 minutes away from you.

Welllllllllllllll, Bart does have a BA, but he is an expert in BS. Remember, with Bart 'suppressing the truth in unrighteousness' he will be sadly blind sided. Whereas James will be using his entire brain, spiritually speaking, Bart will be restricted to his 'medulla oblongata', also spiritually speaking. Those in rebellion against God will hear 'brilliance' from the mouth of 'Bart the Fool'. Believers, of course, will wonder how Mr. Erhman managed to get himself dressed that morning.



I'll give Bart this much, he makes full use of his brain stem.... on a good day.

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Bob Vigneault (Bawb Vēēn-yo)
I just know there's got to be a pony in here somewhere!

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Quote of the day: "Believers, of course, will wonder how Mr. Erhman managed to get himself dressed that morning."

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J. M. - Baptist - Ontario, Canada - Feileadh Mor

"Nothing is more seductive for man than his freedom of conscience. But nothing is a greater cause of suffering."
The Brothers Karamazov