I completely agree. Anymore, I prefer to call myself a Christian that subscribes to a Reformed Confession. That said, I voted anyway because I hate seeing polls forever that have no results.

Incidentally, it will be interesting if any vote for some of the low hanging fruit options from a board membership standpoint.

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Maybe a high calvinist is really an ultra high calvinist on Prozac.


Just trying to bring down the level of discourse enough to tempt a low calvinist to vote.

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Midway Presbyterian Church (PCA)
Jonesborough, TN
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Oh that clears it up!



I need an interpreter.....

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*~Dawn~*
Reformation Fellowship OPC, CA

Sorry about the multiple posts...I needed these laughs today! Thank you!

High Calvinist for the most part kind of hard to label all of what I am.

I'm a Hyper-Calvinist after drinking 10 cups of Java.

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Donald Jacobs
Roanoke VA.
Covenant Reformed Episcopal Church.

Cum vero infirmor tunc potens sum.

High Calvinist in the qualitative sense. I drink decaf.

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Traci
Lynnwood OPC
"I have taken all my good deeds, and all my bad deeds, and cast them through each other in a heap before the Lord, and fled from both, and betaken myself to the Lord Jesus Christ, and in him I have sweet peace."--David Dickson

Moderate Calvinism: Which I have always been taught as "low calvinism" so I picked low (mistakenly by this polls definitions). to call amyraldianism low calvinism is an insult to John Calvin and Moses Amyraut. I agree with Sproul a 4 point calvinist is an arminian.

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Scott - Dallas, Texas - Faith OPC

"It is not what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice tell me I ought to do." - Edmund Burke

To put your fears to rest, Bob, lack of sleep may have something to do with it. April 30 is almost here.

Anyhow, I still had on my mind how it seems you are either hyper or arminian when I voted here. I believe I am properly classified as high calvinist, but there is no way to change my vote.

Maybe a mod can move me over?

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Bert Mulder
Elder of the First Protestant Reformed Church of Edmonton
Edmonton Alberta Canada

I think for profound questions such as these we need to keep this always in the fore of our thinking:

W.W.R.W.D. - What Would Rick Warren Do?

High Calvinism.

there's 2 on hyper and 2 on ultra now. This board needs to cut back on the caffiene.

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I voted moderate Calvinism but when I looked farther into it I think I would classify myself as a High Calvinist. I tend to lean more the supra view of things. So if I could vote again I would vote High Calvinist.

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I made a boobo, can i get to re-vote? I accidentally chose Hyper.

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Can you hold to high or ultrahigh calvinism and still affirm common grace and an infra position ?

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Independent baptist
Singapore

There's been some good feed back here on the chart. I appreciate some of the comments. I'm going to make some revisions. And then post it on exegia.org . I think it is going to be impossible to get these definition iron clad and water tight, but I'll try to be as accurate as possible, that's why I intentionally blurred the colors to show that the different positions can overlap at times i.e. Turretin being infra and not supra.

VanVos

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BTW - What software are you using to produce the chart?

Hi:

I am between moderate and high Calvinism. I choose moderate Calvinism because, according to the descriptions, high Calvinism denies the Free Offer of the Gospel.

-CH

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Publisher 2003. nothing fancy.

I voted moderate.

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I don't know what kind of gardener you are, but I know I hate weeds as do all of my neighbors, who are arguably better gardeners than I will ever be.

Also, while the sun and the rain fall on the elect and reprobate alike so do towers like the one in Siloam (Luke 13:4). The Lord's curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the dwelling of the righteous (Prov 3:33). While I'm sure one can point to the material and temporal blessings God bestowed on even the reprobate (and you just have to watch MTV to get a sense of this today), yet God said he hated Esau even from his mother's the womb. I tend to think these temporal "blessings" are not so much blessings as they are a means of judgment:

Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter.
James 5:1-5

The whole general love idea reminds me of a song by Tom Waits called Chocolate Jesus:

Dont go to church on sunday
Dont get on my knees to pray
Dont memorize the books of the bible
I got my own special way
Bit I know Jesus loves me
Maybe just a little bit more

Well, maybe not. Anyway, your other points concerning God's supposed unfulfilled desire are spot on.


You should read Robert Reymond.

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(jittering and chattering teeth) I I I I'm t t turning into a a a Hy Hyper- Ca Ca Calvinist......

Okay I've made a couple of revisions to the chart found here, which should hopefully be more accurate explanation of the different positions

VanVos

I updated the initial post but let me know if I missed anything. I couldn't change the poll to show American Baptist instead of Free-Will Baptist but the first post shows the change.

I can't belive Rev. McMahon voted Low Calvinism!!

BTW, Moderate Calvinists affirm the well meant offer. Murray did, as well as Calvin. Some delineate however between ardent desire and preceptive will. There is a difference.

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OK. He didn't vote LC. I was trying to entice Matthew into casting his vote.

Didn't work.

So far.

Besides, I know he's a closet Lutheran.

I chose High Calvinism, though I have sympathy for some of the moderate positions. Like a previous person said, while I do hold to the well meant offer, I view it more as a declaration then a genuine offer. I think the atonement would be sufficient for all, but God chooses to only apply it to the elect.

It feels kind of weird choosing an option that would make me more of a Calvinist then Calvin

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Edmonton Chinese Baptist Church
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

That is the same what I believe on that issue, if by that you mean that God works that "offer" himself in the hearts of His people ...

Now if we could sway you to the paedo position, brother ....

Hey, Andrew hasn't voted either. (cough, cough)

Calvin did not affirm the WMO. http://www.prca.org/articles/ctjblack.html

Hear Hear!

I voted:

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Yep.

While I find the Padeo arguments compelling I find the Padeo critiques of the Credo position far from compelling if that makes any sense? Thus, while I am currently wrestling with the Padeo arguments, I'm not wrestling with them in the sense that they have poked holes in my Credo view but rather that they provide another compelling presentation of how to view baptism, covenant, etc.

Me? more or less moderate

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Steven Bittle
Postulant
St. Michael's Church
Reformed Episcopal Church
OKC, OK

"Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum!"

I voted, but then realized my vote was ordained by God. Does this corrupt the poll?

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Brian Bosse
Faith Community Church
Tucson, Arizona

Would you care for some throat lozenges, Colleen?

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