Military Snipers and Special Forces

TimV · #41 (**permalink**) 10-22-2009, 07:57 PM

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He ordered his subordinates to kill or they will be killed themselves.

There was never one single case of a German being executed for refusing to kill civilians. That's an historical fact. But at this point you have dug your feet in, and won't say why it was right to ally ourselves with Stalin who killed literally millions more Christians... I'm out of this dispensational conversation.

SemperEruditio · #42 (**permalink**) 10-22-2009, 08:12 PM

Ummm...Hitler was elected by the people was he not? Plus I never heard of a German being killed for not killing a Jew.

Now how do we go from assassinations in the present to some time-travel and talk about how right it would be to kill Hitler. In this it is clear you believe that it is right to kill someone who you know is going to kill others. The problem is without this time machine how do you know? In all of this it seems there is an attempt to play God and say that we know better than God what should or should not have happened. Are you saying that the suffering of the Jews was a mistake that God should have gotten right? It was asked before but what makes the Jews so special? What about all those dying in African countries, Slavic countries, Latin-American countries...? Is God wrong in those situations as well?

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I'm out of this dispensational conversation.

Right behind ya.

AThornquist · #43 (**permalink**) 10-22-2009, 08:13 PM

Tim and Frank were raptured out of this discussion! Who else was left behind???

Edward · #44 (**permalink**) 10-22-2009, 09:09 PM

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No one claims anywhere near 6 million Jews dead in gas chambers, but leaving American propaganda aside, what do you suggest would have happened if Hitler had been killed early in his career? Peace and love and harmony?

Six million killed in the gas chambers may be inaccurate, but six million jews were killed in the Holocaust (contrary to Rushdooney), so what does it really matter? Starved to death; firing squads; gas chambers; six million murdered is six million murdered.

So the roughly equal number who weren't Jewish don't count?

jfschultz · #45 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 08:34 AM

I noticed much said about just war issues. However "peace" is a bigger issue.

Contrary to the Washington party line "they" don't hate us because of our freedom. "They" hate us because of how free we are in interfering in their internal affairs. We have given a pass on this aspect of U.S. foreign policy for decades, and we are now reaping what we have sown.

How are the covert operations of special forces and other "black ops" groups used to advance our interventionist foreign policy?

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Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing.
~Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953

Jon Peters · #46 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 02:48 PM

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Six million killed in the gas chambers may be inaccurate, but six million jews were killed in the Holocaust (contrary to Rushdooney), so what does it really matter? Starved to death; firing squads; gas chambers; six million murdered is six million murdered.

Your info is old on the numbers and what Rush said.

I'll stand by the number. Frankly, the only reason I care in the least what Rushdooney thinks is because so many people seem to think he is a good teacher. I don't share that opinion. If later in life he reversed on his Holocaust denying tendencies then terrific.