I've been wrestling with this since a friend challenged my interpretation of I Timothy 1:15. My knee-jerk response, in accordance with historic reformed theology, is to say, "Of course we're sinners", but the Biblical support just isn't appearing.

Definitions of sinner are also at issue.

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Philip
Potomac Hills Presbyterian Church (PCA) Leesburg, VA
Attending Reformed Presbyterian Church, Lookout Mountain, GA
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There was a thread on a week or two ago, found here: Can Christians Still Consider Themselves Sinners?

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Paul Korte
OPC
Flint, MI

They who perceive in themselves discoveries of the divine goodness, so full and absolutely perfect, and who make them the subject of earnest meditation, will never embrace new doctrines, by which the very grace they feel so powerfully in themselves is thrown into the shade. --John Calvin

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As Luther would say. "simul justus et peccator."

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Reg
Youth Director/Seminary Student
Baptist
Maryland
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Paul said "Jesus Christ came into this world to save sinners, of whom I AM the worst" (emphasis added). I think it is fairly safe to say yes we are still sinners.

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Joseph F Scibbe
Chaplain Assistant
Chapel of Wings Ft Rucker Al
Ephesians 1:4-7, 1 Thessalonians 2:8, Romans 12:1-2
Titus 2:2 - But you, teach what accords with sound doctrine.

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But where else might I find it? I agree with that interpretation, but where else in the Scriptures are Christians called sinners?

1Jn 1:8-10 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (9) If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (10) If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

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Brad
Member- Eagle Heights PCA
Winchester, VA

Pro 16:33 The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the LORD.

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

I'm going to close this one down, and refer everyone to last week's thread (linked above in Post #2) on the topic to continue the conversation there. That way people will not have to duplicate what they have already said if they want to participate. Read up on what's been written, and continue.