Psalm 22:9: "Yet You brought me out of the womb; You made me trust in You even at my mother's breast."
Psalm 22:9: "Yet You brought me out of the womb; You made me trust in You even at my mother's breast."
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"If a commission by an earthly king is considered a honor, how can a commission by a Heavenly King be considered a sacrifice?"
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Semper Fidelis (10-09-2008)
I don't have an answer, but I'm guessing from the following that God has His ways with these folks. I think this Scripture you quoted came from the 22nd Psalm, which is about Christ, who was not brain-damaged or cognitively-challenged in any way, as it would have interfered with His mission.
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The man who is disposed to think of his sin as a great calamity, rather than as a heinous crime, is not likely either to reverence God or to respect His law. - John Kennedy, 1873
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Define "trust"
Personally I see an infant at the breast who is in complete reliance upon God (trust) as a very, very good example of trusting in God...as opposed to fully cognitive men who rely on and trust in themselves more often then not.
I think the Psalmist thought that was a good example of trust too.
Shawn
Orthodox Presbyterian
Denver, Colorado
Open my eyes Lord, that I may behold wondrous things out of your law. Psalm 119:18
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I repent in dust & ashes! Did not see forum title!
The man who is disposed to think of his sin as a great calamity, rather than as a heinous crime, is not likely either to reverence God or to respect His law. - John Kennedy, 1873
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That God brought you out of the womb is not something you recognize at the time, but is still true. That suggests one possibility: looking back he could see that God had been working in him even at stage. There is another possibility, that it expresses "from as far back as I can remember". The case of Samuel suggests that children maybe were not weaned at a year or less as is common among us. But of course that possibility raises the never-to-be-dismissed possibility of infant regeneration.
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Is David's trust and John the Baptist's kicking in the womb to be viewed as similar in any way?
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"If a commission by an earthly king is considered a honor, how can a commission by a Heavenly King be considered a sacrifice?"
-- David Livingstone
Does this mean that someone can be saved without knowledge of right doctrine then? What? Never heard of the Trinity, no problem?
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"If a commission by an earthly king is considered a honor, how can a commission by a Heavenly King be considered a sacrifice?"
-- David Livingstone
I've asked the same question many times. If God knows a person is elect from before the foundation of the world, then he was God's before he was born. At what point can he be called a believer? I don't know.
If a person is God's eventually, the Spirit of God will open his eyes to the truth. Do I believe that can happen from conception? Yes, I do.
J Baldwin
Keowee Presbyterian Church, PCA
Pickens, SC
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You either believe the WCF section that Meg posted or you don't. My 11 year old has Down's Syndrome, and there's no way he can understand the Trinity. He can't even count to 10. How much do you want him to believe before Christ can love him?Does this mean that someone can be saved without knowledge of right doctrine then?
Tim Vaughan
Member, Redeemer Presbyterian, OPC,
Santa Maria
California
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How absurd a tenet is this, which holdeth that there is some particular worship of God allowed, and not commanded? What new light is this which maketh all our divines to have been in the mist, who have acknowledged no worship of God, but that which God hath commanded? Who ever heard of commanded and allowed worship? - George Gillespie
sorry, didn't see the credo-baptism
J Baldwin
Keowee Presbyterian Church, PCA
Pickens, SC
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Ima gonna post this same question in the paedo forum I think to get fuller answers...
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"If a commission by an earthly king is considered a honor, how can a commission by a Heavenly King be considered a sacrifice?"
-- David Livingstone
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