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Old 12-23-2008, 03:04 PM
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Why I am now a paedo!

I decided to purchase this offer from Dr. McMahon, a prof. from my seminary, and I started listening to his "Are you truly reformed?" as well as his Covenant Theology overview. Well I think I am now truly reformed...

I am at a loss! Where has this information and teaching been!? This is as big to me as when I first listened to the Doctrine of Grace series by Roy Hargrave...then I felt born again again...and now I feel born again again again!?!?

Now I think I need to get my children baptized and join a paedobaptist church...my wife would go nuts!

Here's the CD on special this month for $20 and it has a ton of resources! Check it out...

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Old 12-23-2008, 03:19 PM
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Is this offer still available? It says that it was available until yesterday.
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Praise the Lord brother. My firstborn son who is about 5 weeks now was baptized last week. Understanding covenant theology as codified in the Reformed confessions is truly transformative.
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Old 12-23-2008, 03:43 PM
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Is this offer still available? It says that it was available until yesterday.


Sorry I just checked and realized the offer is over...I thought it was until end of year. Ask Dr. McMahon and see?

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Just don't get rebaptized!


To quote Nicodemus a *little* loosely, "How can one enter his mother's womb a second time so that he can be baptized as an infant instead of as a believing adult?"




BTW - I was baptized as an infant and then baptized as a believer...so I got all my bases covered already!
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Hi Denton,

Congratulations Brother!! You are not that far from me. I live in Lilburn, but attend church in Snellville.

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I am also new to this covenant theology, but I hurried and when my son, who is now 7 weeks old, was ca 5 weeks old we had him baptised.
It is simply the most safe feeling when everybody in your family are resting on the covenant promise.
By this I mean no offense to those of my brothers who feel different in this subject.
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Denton,

Just happened to run across your post on a Google search, and thought you might like to know that a new PCA church plant has recently been started in Monroe. To my knowledge, we're the only Reformed church in Walton County right now. If you're serious about wanting to join a paedobaptist church and having your children baptized, check out our website at www.monroepca.org. My contact information is there if you have any questions.

God bless,

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I decided to purchase this offer from Dr. McMahon, a prof. from my seminary, and I started listening to his "Are you truly reformed?" as well as his Covenant Theology overview. Well I think I am now truly reformed...

I am at a loss! Where has this information and teaching been!? This is as big to me as when I first listened to the Doctrine of Grace series by Roy Hargrave...then I felt born again again...and now I feel born again again again!?!?

Now I think I need to get my children baptized and join a paedobaptist church...my wife would go nuts!

Here's the CD on special this month for $20 and it has a ton of resources! Check it out...

A Puritan's Mind All-On-One DVD

Tell Dr. McMahon that Denton sent you!

You may want to discuss this with your wife...Lord willing she will be brought along to your understanding. I am excited to hear of your "cross over."
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It sounds like you are here in understanding reformed theology:

doctrines of grace "five points" + covenant theology + confession

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spiritual view of sacraments + church discipline + infant baptism (due to your understanding of covenant theology)
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Mr. Elliot,

I praise the Lord with you that He has exposed you to the Scripturalness of Covenant Theology and the like. I also pray that you won't jump too fast, but continue to study, winning your wife over with steady, consistent, and winsome teaching, not provoking unnecessary defense, etc. The Lord is good. Thanks for sharing!
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Yes I currently have a wonderful fellowship at Christ Community Church in Monroe, GA, where I serve as a deacon and teacher. I am not going to jump ship so soon as I don't consider baptism an essential doctrine to part fellowship over just yet. I am starting to see though that if I end up completely convinced of Covenant Theology (which I surmise will happen over the next few years while at Whitefield), I may have to part weekly fellowship for a church that does embrace all of Reformed Theology...
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Yay, I am an ex baptist as well, and I also purchased the collection for $20
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Welcome to the Fold Denton! I was a Fundamental Baptist until I was 26 years old and a Paedo the last 13 years however as a married man with no children as of yet I haven't had the joy of experiencing Covenant Baptism for one of my own children. I'm sure it is quite a Blessing.
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Great! Dr. McMahon's essays on hermeneutics are extremely helpful.
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Awesome, Praise God it is a real eye opener when you get most of it.

And yes work with your wife but read what happened to Moses when Zipporah didn't want him to circumcise his child and he waited. God nearly killed him.

So yes it is a BIG thing. I never thought it was so important when I was a baptist but once I saw the covenant clearly, We are Israel, that was it!!

We are graft into Israel of promise. the one body of elect.

I wish all baptists could see this and have the experience you are having.

But it must be one of those things god has to open your eyes to in his timing.

His ways are beyond ours and Marvelous and mysterious in our eyes!! Keep studying bro and thanks for sharing your experience with us.
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