» Site Navigation | | | » Online Users: 123 | | 40 members and 83 guests | | austinww, Backwoods Presbyterian, calvinich, Chaplainintraining, christabella_warren, ColdSilverMoon, CredoFidoSpero, Edward, Hamalas, Jake, Karnes, knight4christ8, KSon, Michael Turner, Montanablue, nicnap, Puritan Sailor, raekwon, smhbbag, SolaScriptura, SteppingHeavenward, tdowns, tellville, timmopussycat, uberkermit, WAWICRUZ | | Most users ever online was 856, 07-06-2007 at 12:19 AM. | |  | 
09-23-2008, 08:00 PM
|  | Puritanboard Senior | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Milwaukee, Wi
Posts: 2,069
Thanks: 974
Thanked 221 Times in 185 Posts
| | | Intro into paedobaptism?
I was wondering what you thought of "Why do we Baptize infants?" by Bryan Chapell? Evidently when i was collecting the booklets from the basics of the reformed faith series i acquired this one.
Lately the topic has been on my mind. I came to the credo position on my own for the most part. I was interesting in studying to trying to figure out where paedos are coming from.
So i guess i am wondering if this is good intro material and if other material could possibly be recommended.
I kind of wanted to start a thread where i could openly dialogue with paedo believers but i feel as though i wouldnt really know where to start. All i really know is my understanding of the credo position.
__________________
Brian E
Attending Falls OPC
Menomonee Falls, WI Quote: |
Originally Posted by Psalm 28:7 The Lord is my Strength and my shield; in Him my heart trusts, and I am helped; my heart exults, and with my song i give thanks to Him.  | | 
09-23-2008, 08:14 PM
|  | Pastor | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Beloit, Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 10,165
Thanks: 1,467
Thanked 1,422 Times in 1,062 Posts
| | |
Interesting, Brian, I saw that title as I was looking around on a website.
__________________ Ivan R. Schoen, B.A., M.A., M.L.I.S.
Pastor of Maranatha Baptist Church (SBC)
Poplar Grove, IL, USA http://maranatha-sbc.org | 
09-23-2008, 08:23 PM
|  | Puritanboard Junior | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bradenton, FL
Posts: 1,594
Thanks: 610
Thanked 327 Times in 200 Posts
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Quickened I was wondering what you thought of "Why do we Baptize infants?" by Bryan Chapell?
[...]
So i guess i am wondering if this is good intro material and if other material could possibly be recommended. | I haven't read "Why do we Baptize infants" so I can't comment on how good it is. But when I started studying the topic there were two articles that stood out above the others: A Contemporary Reformed Defense of Infant Baptism by Prof. R. Scott Clark
and My Retraction: A 15 Year Baptist Turns Paedo-Baptist and Becomes Reformed By Dr. C. Matthew McMahon
Of course Monergism has enough articles on the topic to keep you busy for a while also: Monergism :: Paedobaptism - Covenant Infant Baptism
I pray that the Lord guides you as you begin to study the topic.
Blessings,
__________________
Steve Butts - Former SBC-er
Three Forms of Unity - Bradenton CRCNA - Bradenton, Florida (A conservative member in a conservative congregation) "Turning away to false Theology is equal to turning away to false gods" — Francis Schaeffer (Death in the City) | | The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Seb For This Useful Post: | | 
09-23-2008, 08:26 PM
|  | Puritanboard Graduate | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rockville, CT
Posts: 3,646
Thanks: 609
Thanked 925 Times in 709 Posts
| | |
"Why do we Baptize infants?" by Bryan Chapell is very good.
Another good "booklet" on the subject is
What Christian Parents Should Know About Infant Baptism by John P. Sartelle (P & R Publishing), 1985.
| | The Following User Says Thank You to Presbyterian Deacon For This Useful Post: | | 
09-23-2008, 09:46 PM
|  | Puritanboard Junior | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boothwyn, PA
Posts: 1,928
Thanks: 133
Thanked 595 Times in 356 Posts
| |
__________________
Larry Bray
Elder - Reformed Presbyterian Church of Boothwyn, PCA
Boothwyn, PA - http://www.rpcb.org/ Free Online Reformed Seminary - http://www.tnars.net
-----------------------------------------------------
Christian ritual costs nothing and is worth nothing. True Christian religion costs all that we have and is worth everything.
| | The Following User Says Thank You to larryjf For This Useful Post: | | 
09-23-2008, 09:49 PM
| | Puritanboard Librarian | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: N/A
Posts: 24,004
Thanks: 2,636
Thanked 3,523 Times in 2,014 Posts
| | |
__________________
Andrew
| 
09-26-2008, 10:05 AM
|  | Puritanboard Senior | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Milwaukee, Wi
Posts: 2,069
Thanks: 974
Thanked 221 Times in 185 Posts
| | |
Thank you gentlemen! I appreciate your insight.
I haven't taken the time to honestly and prayerfully look at this perspective. There is much i still have left to learn to I am trying to go through topics where i am lacking and tackle them one at a time.
When i first came to know Christ I joined a protestant message board so i could sit back and just read different opinions and compare them to the scriptures myself. In this particular case it wasnt a fair comparison because 1) the board was predominately credo in its views. 2) Infant baptism was usually compared to the Roman Catholic baptism. Being a former Catholic i wanted to stay far away from that.
Anyways there have been some discussions that are prompting me to look at what i believe and what scripture really does show.
Again i appreciate your willingness to provide links and dialogue with me! I will be slowly going through some stuff and then occasionally coming back here in this thread.
| 
09-26-2008, 10:16 AM
|  | Puritanboard Senior | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Milwaukee, Wi
Posts: 2,069
Thanks: 974
Thanked 221 Times in 185 Posts
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivan Interesting, Brian, I saw that title as I was looking around on a website. |  Surely that must be a sign! | 
10-11-2008, 01:09 AM
|  | Puritanboard Freshman | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Philadelphia, NY
Posts: 474
Thanks: 5
Thanked 36 Times in 15 Posts
| |
As I recall, the booklet is Chapell's chapter in The Case for Covenantal Infant Baptism, edited by Gregg Strawbridge. His contribution is a decent overview of the position. Obviously, for a more in-depth examination of the subject, you would want to look at something longer than a booklet. My own recommendation would be Robert Wilson's Infant Baptism a Scriptural Service, and Dipping Unnecessary to Its Right Administration ( Infant Baptism: A Scriptural Service ... - Google Book Search).
__________________
Sean P.M. McDonald
Communicant Member of Lisbon Reformed Presbyterian Church, Lisbon, NY
Infantryman (SGT), 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, NY
Husband to Laura, father to Olivia
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Lex praescribit, evangelium inscribit." (The law prescribes, the gospel inscribes.)
| | The Following User Says Thank You to Kaalvenist For This Useful Post: | | 
10-13-2008, 07:18 PM
|  | Puritanboard Senior | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Milwaukee, Wi
Posts: 2,069
Thanks: 974
Thanked 221 Times in 185 Posts
| |
Thanks for the recommendation Sean!
After reading that booklet i decided that i probably need a more thorough understanding of covenant theology. Because my understanding is probably quite basic. I do have michael hortons book on the subject. Then after that i will probably bounce back to reading and asking more here so i can further understand.
Again i earnestly thank you all for your time and patience with me as i learn and grow here | 
10-13-2008, 07:41 PM
|  | Pastor | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Beloit, Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 10,165
Thanks: 1,467
Thanked 1,422 Times in 1,062 Posts
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Quickened Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivan Interesting, Brian, I saw that title as I was looking around on a website. |  Surely that must be a sign!  | Yeah, probably the Second Coming.
| 
10-13-2008, 08:54 PM
|  | Puritanboard Sophomore | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego, CA area
Posts: 524
Thanks: 28
Thanked 26 Times in 14 Posts
| | |
The only thing I have to say, is when I was coming to the subject, my understanding of Covenant theology was that of a baptist. I think the best way to come to baptism is to first understand what scripture teaches regarding the covenants and covenant theology. IMO, this was pivital for me.
__________________
Andrew Cunningham
From:Reno, NV Currently: San Deigo, Camp pendleton
Attending:seeking a church in San Diego area "by His scourging we are healed" Isaiah 53:5 "Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity and cleanse me from my sin" Psalm 51:2 |  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |