Help Needed with Puritan Works relating to the Magistrate

Daniel Ritchie · #1 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 02:50 PM

Does anyone know if the following Puritan works have anything on the duties of the magistrate, national covenanting or God's providential judgments on the nations:

The Works of John Howe

The Works of Thomas Adams

Thomas Case Select Works

The Works of Thomas Goodwin

Anything in Matthew Mead, Christopher Love or Thomas Watson or Robert Bolton?

greenbaggins · #2 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 02:52 PM

Lex Rex by Samuel Rutherford is the ultimate book on this.

Daniel Ritchie · #3 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 02:56 PM

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Lex Rex by Samuel Rutherford is the ultimate book on this.

Thanks I have that one. I disagree with Rutherford on the monarchy.

I am thinking of compiling an annotated sourcebook which would be a sort of reply to DG Hart's A Secular Faith.

CarlosOliveira · #4 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Ritchie

Does anyone know if the following Puritan works have anything on the duties of the magistrate, national covenanting or God's providential judgments on the nations:

The Works of John Howe

Daniel, in Howe's works will you find related to the issue:

Of Thoughtfulness for the Morrow and its appendix - pg. 328
A Sermon for the Reformation of Manners - Rom. XIII 4 - pg. 932

Pagination is from the 1835 edition of his Whole Works available at Google books here and here. But these two works are available at Soli Deo Gloria edition as well.

Blessings!

Pilgrim · #5 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 04:36 PM

Chris Rhoades collated a lot of Puritan and Reformed statements on the magistrate, but I'm not sure where it can be found on this board. There are a couple of sticky threads in the politicks forum but I don't think those are the ones I'm thinking of.

NaphtaliPress · #6 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 04:40 PM

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Chris Rhoades collated a lot of Puritan and Reformed statements on the magistrate, but I'm not sure where it can be found on this board. There are a couple of sticky threads in the politicks forum but I don't think those are the ones I'm thinking of.

This is it I think:
http://www.puritanboard.com/f33/bibl...gistrate-6446/

Pilgrim · #7 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

Chris Rhoades collated a lot of Puritan and Reformed statements on the magistrate, but I'm not sure where it can be found on this board. There are a couple of sticky threads in the politicks forum but I don't think those are the ones I'm thinking of.

This is it I think:
http://www.puritanboard.com/f33/bibl...gistrate-6446/

That list is very helpful, but what I seem to remember was something much longer with quotes from Reformers, Puritans, etc. on the magistrate.

NaphtaliPress · #8 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 04:52 PM

That's all I could find searching; there is also this:
http://www.puritanboard.com/f33/refo...collated-6132/

Pilgrim · #9 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 05:05 PM

I think this is the thread I was looking for.

VirginiaHuguenot · #10 (**permalink**) 02-08-2008, 11:01 PM

Chris Rhoades has done an excellent job of compiling Puritan/Reformed quotes and works on the civil magistrate.

For other bibliographies on Puritan works re church-state relations, see Joel R. Beeke, A Reader's Guide to Reformed Literature: An Annotated Bibliography of Reformed Theology (pp. 91-93, Article 36: Church and State); and Robert P. Martin, A Guide to the Puritans (pp. 60-61, Church and State).

Daniel Ritchie · #11 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 07:35 AM

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Chris Rhoades has done an excellent job of compiling Puritan/Reformed quotes and works on the civil magistrate.

For other bibliographies on Puritan works re church-state relations, see Joel R. Beeke, A Reader's Guide to Reformed Literature: An Annotated Bibliography of Reformed Theology (pp. 91-93, Article 36: Church and State); and Robert P. Martin, A Guide to the Puritans (pp. 60-61, Church and State).

Do you know of anything in Thomas Goodwin's works either on the magistrate or on God's providential judgments?

What about Jeremiah Burroughs on Hosea?

VirginiaHuguenot · #12 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 09:04 AM

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Chris Rhoades has done an excellent job of compiling Puritan/Reformed quotes and works on the civil magistrate.

For other bibliographies on Puritan works re church-state relations, see Joel R. Beeke, A Reader's Guide to Reformed Literature: An Annotated Bibliography of Reformed Theology (pp. 91-93, Article 36: Church and State); and Robert P. Martin, A Guide to the Puritans (pp. 60-61, Church and State).

Do you know of anything in Thomas Goodwin's works either on the magistrate or on God's providential judgments?

What about Jeremiah Burroughs on Hosea?

Goodwin addresses the civil magistrate in the context of church-state relations/toleration in volume 11 of his works. I'm not sure if he addresses it in The Grand Debate but I'll look into that.

Burroughs addresses magistrates (including judgments against magistrates/nations) and the state in his commentary on Hosea on pp. 12, 58 and 395, and perhaps elsewhere.

Daniel Ritchie · #13 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 09:33 AM

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Chris Rhoades has done an excellent job of compiling Puritan/Reformed quotes and works on the civil magistrate.

For other bibliographies on Puritan works re church-state relations, see Joel R. Beeke, A Reader's Guide to Reformed Literature: An Annotated Bibliography of Reformed Theology (pp. 91-93, Article 36: Church and State); and Robert P. Martin, A Guide to the Puritans (pp. 60-61, Church and State).

Do you know of anything in Thomas Goodwin's works either on the magistrate or on God's providential judgments?

What about Jeremiah Burroughs on Hosea?

Goodwin addresses the civil magistrate in the context of church-state relations/toleration in volume 11 of his works. I'm not sure if he addresses it in The Grand Debate but I'll look into that.

Burroughs addresses magistrates (including judgments against magistrates/nations) and the state in his commentary on Hosea on pp. 12, 58 and 395, and perhaps elsewhere.

I will have to make a couple of purchases next time I visit John Gowan in Fermanagh - he is the main man in Northern Ireland for RHB stuff.

Daniel Ritchie · #14 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 09:39 AM

Oh yes, does Richard Sibbes, Stephen Chranock or Thomas Brooks have anything related to the themes I am looking for?

NaphtaliPress · #15 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 10:05 AM

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Chris Rhoades has done an excellent job of compiling Puritan/Reformed quotes and works on the civil magistrate.

For other bibliographies on Puritan works re church-state relations, see Joel R. Beeke, A Reader's Guide to Reformed Literature: An Annotated Bibliography of Reformed Theology (pp. 91-93, Article 36: Church and State); and Robert P. Martin, A Guide to the Puritans (pp. 60-61, Church and State).

Do you know of anything in Thomas Goodwin's works either on the magistrate or on God's providential judgments?

What about Jeremiah Burroughs on Hosea?

Goodwin addresses the civil magistrate in the context of church-state relations/toleration in volume 11 of his works. I'm not sure if he addresses it in The Grand Debate but I'll look into that.

Burroughs addresses magistrates (including judgments against magistrates/nations) and the state in his commentary on Hosea on pp. 12, 58 and 395, and perhaps elsewhere.

In Grand Debate, the magistrate is mentioned but as far as I can tell searching the text, not to any extent beyond allusions or simple statements regarding some power in the magistrate to settle church government and outlaw other forms, etc.

VirginiaHuguenot · #16 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Ritchie

Does anyone know if the following Puritan works have anything on the duties of the magistrate, national covenanting or God's providential judgments on the nations:

The Works of John Howe

The Works of Thomas Adams

Thomas Case Select Works

The Works of Thomas Goodwin

Anything in Matthew Mead, Christopher Love or Thomas Watson or Robert Bolton?

Re Thomas Brooks -- See London's Lamentations in volume 6, concerning God's providential judgments on cities and nations.

Re Thomas Case -- The Select Works has A Treatise of Afflictions and A Prospect of Heaven, which are aimed primarily at comforting individual believers. But there is corporate application. For Thomas Case's views on the Establishment Principle, see his sermon in volume 5 of The Morning Exercises, some of which I quoted in this thread:

Thomas Case on the Government of Christ

Re Richard Sibbes -- See volume 6 of his works on covenanting and Josiah's reformation.

Re Christopher Love -- See Dr. Kistler's biography: A Spectacle Unto God: The Life and Death of Christopher Love.

Re Thomas Watson -- See various remarks on magistracy in his commentary on the Westminster Shorter Catechism (A Body of Divinity), particularly wrt his exposition of the ten commandments.

VirginiaHuguenot · #17 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 10:51 AM

Some of the really excellent Puritan works on magistracy that I highlighted in the bibliography thread already cited include:

Thomas Hall, The Beauty of Magistracy: An Exposition of Psalm 82

John Howe, Duty of Civil Magistrates: A Sermon for the Reformation of Manners

Samuel Slater, What is the Duty of Magistrates, from the Highest to the Lowest, for the Supressing of Profaneness?

George Swinnock, The Gods Die Like Men; or, Magistrates are Mortal and Men are Gods; or, The Dignity of Magistracy and the Duty of the Magistrate

William Gurnall's sermon The Civil Magistrate's Portrait Drawn from the Word is found in The Christian's Labor and Reward, published by Soli Deo Gloria.

Anthony Burgess, The magistrate's commission from Heaven, Rom. xiii. 4, 1644

Stephen Marshall, The power of the civil magistrate in matters of religion vindicated the extent of his power determined in a sermon preached before the first Parliament on a monthly fast day by ... Mr. Stephen Marshall ...

Obadiah Sedgwick, The best and the worst magistrate: or, The people's happiness and unhappiness, laid open in a sermon preached at the late election of the Lord Major for the famous City of London, Sept. 29. 1648. By Obadiah Sedgwick B. in D. and minister at Covent-Garden, 1648

Henry Smith, "The Magistrates' Scripture" (Ps. 82.6-7), The Works of Henry Smith, Vol. 1, pp. 355-370

Henry Smith, "A Memento for Magistrates" (Ps. 45.6-7), The Works of Henry Smith, Vol. 2, pp. 67-77

VirginiaHuguenot · #18 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 11:23 AM

On the subject of national judgments, you can find a lot of Puritan literature which I cited in this thread:

Special Providences

In particular, I would recommend:

Patrick Gillespie, Rulers Sins, The causes of National judgments, or a Sermon Preached at the Fast, upon the 26th Day of December 1650
Daniel Williams, What repentence of National Sins doth God require, as ever we expect National Mercies?
John Collins, How the religious of a nation are the strength of it
Thomas Vincent, God's Terrible Voice in the City
Matthew Henry, A Memorial of the Fire of the Lord
Stephen Charnock, A Discourse Upon the Fifth of November or On God as a Deliverer
Obadiah Sedgwick, Providence Practically Handled