The PuritanBoard  

Go Back   The PuritanBoard > The Church > Church Order

Church Order Discussions related to issues of Church Order: administration of the Sacraments, Church discipline, conduct of meetings, and suggested forms.

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God.

» Online Users: 46
1 members and 45 guests
blhowes
Most users ever online was 856, 07-06-2007 at 12:19 AM.
View Poll Results: Should polls be used by congregations?
Yes 1 5.88%
No 15 88.24%
Other 1 5.88%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 01:45 PM
Stephen's Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,998
Thanks: 923
Thanked 269 Times in 178 Posts
Should polls be used by congregations?

Should polls and surveys be used by churches to determine doctrine and practice?
__________________
Stephen Welch
PCA Teaching Elder
Nova Scotia
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 01:50 PM
Puritanboard Doctor
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Saintfield, Co. Down, Northern Ireland
Posts: 6,568
Thanks: 2,062
Thanked 1,124 Times in 740 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
Should polls and surveys be used by churches to determine doctrine and practice?
Isn't that Congregationalism.
__________________
Daniel Ritchie
Saintfield, Northern Ireland - Queen's University, Belfast:History/Politics
Member of Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland (Covenanter)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:09 PM
DMcFadden's Avatar
McFadderator Minimizing
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Gabriel, CA
Posts: 3,467
Thanks: 703
Thanked 1,044 Times in 625 Posts
Polls should be used to gain valuable feedback on any number of issues in the church, particularly in larger congregations, but NOT for determining doctrine.
__________________
Dennis E. McFadden, Ex Mainline Baptist (in Remission)
Atherton Baptist Homes, CEO
First Baptist Church of Alhambra, Member, Transformation Ministries (CA)

Click to get: Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:11 PM
joshua's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Texarkana (Border of Texas and Arkansas)
Posts: 14,795
Blog Entries: 15
Thanks: 1,263
Thanked 1,420 Times in 749 Posts
Or should doctrine and practice determine our polls?
__________________
Josh Hicks, Chloë's Daddy
Member of TRBC. My Blog
The Puritan Pub (Team Blog)

Board Rules -- Signature Requirements -- Suggestions?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:21 PM
Stephen's Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,998
Thanks: 923
Thanked 269 Times in 178 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by joshua View Post
Or should doctrine and practice determine our polls?
Now I know why you are the administrator of this fine establishment,
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:24 PM
joshua's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Texarkana (Border of Texas and Arkansas)
Posts: 14,795
Blog Entries: 15
Thanks: 1,263
Thanked 1,420 Times in 749 Posts
An Administrator. Definitely not the caliber of man who could be THE Administrator.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:24 PM
Stephen's Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,998
Thanks: 923
Thanked 269 Times in 178 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Ritchie View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen View Post
Should polls and surveys be used by churches to determine doctrine and practice?
Isn't that Congregationalism.

I know this to be the case for some. Even PCA churches are falling prey to this pragmatic practice. I think it would be helpful if someone could do a poll on this very issue and determine if polls and surveys are not some form of "new measures."
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:26 PM
JBaldwin's Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Pickens, SC
Posts: 1,354
Thanks: 240
Thanked 342 Times in 213 Posts
I was horrified a few years ago when someone in the church suggested that we do a poll to see what kind of music people wanted and what type of fellowship gatherings we should have, etc. I was glad that pastor put a stop to it.
__________________
J Baldwin
Keowee Presbyterian Church, PCA
Pickens, SC
“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” Luke 10:27

Check Out My Blog: http://reflectjoy.blogspot.com/
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:30 PM
Stephen's Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,998
Thanks: 923
Thanked 269 Times in 178 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBaldwin View Post
I was horrified a few years ago when someone in the church suggested that we do a poll to see what kind of music people wanted and what type of fellowship gatherings we should have, etc. I was glad that pastor put a stop to it.
Amen! I have known of PCA churches that have not only taken polls to determine the kind of worship the congregation wanted but also taken polls to determine what kind of minister to call or what to look for in a minister. Is this not the work of the session who seeks wisdom from the LORD?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 02:53 PM
ColdSilverMoon's Avatar
Puritanboard Freshman
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 368
Thanks: 40
Thanked 78 Times in 51 Posts
I'm the idiot who answered yes. I didn't read the full question - please disregard.
__________________
Mason
Member, Redeemer Presbyterian Church (PCA)
New York, NY

"Come now, and let us reason together," says the Lord, "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be as wool." - Isaiah 1:18
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 03:02 PM
jaybird0827's Avatar
Puritanboard Graduate
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Indian Trail, NC
Posts: 3,137
Blog Entries: 11
Thanks: 634
Thanked 226 Times in 162 Posts
Uh-uh
__________________
~Jay~
Husband of ENS, father of J II. | Indian Trail, NC
Teacher Aide, Union County Public Schools, NC
Communicant Member, Precentor | Presbyterian Reformed Church of Charlotte, NC | Presbyterian Reformed Church
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 03:06 PM
LadyFlynt's Avatar
Puritanboard Doctor
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Lancaster County, PA
Posts: 6,109
Thanks: 246
Thanked 176 Times in 96 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdSilverMoon View Post
I'm the idiot who answered yes. I didn't read the full question - please disregard.
Was wondering, "Who in the world?!" or at least, "Who on the PB?!!"
__________________
JC
URCNA
PA

"Forgiveness is primarily for our own sake, so that we no longer carry the burden of resentment. But to forgive does not mean we will allow injustice again." --Jack Kornfield
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 03:07 PM
Stephen's Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,998
Thanks: 923
Thanked 269 Times in 178 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdSilverMoon View Post
I'm the idiot who answered yes. I didn't read the full question - please disregard.


I must confess that I was being somewhat mischevious (which my wife will affirm) and tried to confuse people. I am getting Spring fever up here in Nova Scotia. You can always vote again. This is the beauty of the American system, you can vote as many times as you want
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 03:09 PM
Stephen's Avatar
Puritanboard Junior
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 1,998
Thanks: 923
Thanked 269 Times in 178 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdSilverMoon View Post
I'm the idiot who answered yes. I didn't read the full question - please disregard.

At least you did not vote "other."
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 09:12 PM
Pergamum's Avatar
Puritanboard Graduate
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,817
Thanks: 445
Thanked 658 Times in 335 Posts
What do you mean by doctrine AND practice?


On the the admission and dismissal of members and baptisms, how much should the congregations be involved. The NT speaks of the whole church agreeing on many aspects. The doctrine need not change (because even congregational churches have statements of faith) but practices vary from those that are closely hinged to doctrine and those that are loosely hinged to doctrine.

I see a lot of congregational involvement in the NT.
__________________
Pergamum


"If a commission by an earthly king is considered a honor, how can a commission by a Heavenly King be considered a sacrifice?"
-- David Livingstone
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 04-15-2008, 09:24 PM
ModernPuritan?'s Avatar
Puritanboard Freshman
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montgomery, ALabama
Posts: 371
Thanks: 70
Thanked 26 Times in 23 Posts
churches should poll the congregation only if hte pastor in his sermon intends to put "Doctrine, reproof, instruction, and training" in his sermon. failure to poll and warn before hand may cause the congregation to feel guilty. we dont want them to feel guilty but rather give them a boost for the coming week.
__________________
Jeff Rod
Eastwood Presbyterian Church PCA
member.
webpage: myspace.com/reformationforever

To live a simple, peaceable life before God
To owe as little as possible, to few as possible.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2002-2008 PuritanBoard.com
Hosted by WebsiteMaven - helping ministries with web hosting advice, reviews, and design.
Westminster Abbey © Confessional Presbyterian Presses - used with permission.
Add Our Custom Button to your Google Toolbar

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64