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I don't recall Paul preferring one error over another. Heresy should be confronted no matter how 'innocuous' it may seem. There is no paradise amongst the wolves.
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Originally Posted by Theognome  I don't recall Paul preferring one error over another. Heresy should be confronted no matter how 'innocuous' it may seem. There is no paradise amongst the wolves.
Theognome | Even if that is true, I think it is irrelevant to the subject of the thread...
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Originally Posted by Theognome I don't recall Paul preferring one error over another. Heresy should be confronted no matter how 'innocuous' it may seem. There is no paradise amongst the wolves.
Theognome | Actually he did prefer some errors to others it seems if a degree of condemnation is the measuring stick. He seemed to be harder on the Galatians for their false gospel than the Corinthians and their moral conundrums. Though he didn't approve of the latter. Some the guys that are better with the Greek can chime in.
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Originally Posted by steven-nemes Quote:
Originally Posted by Theognome I don't recall Paul preferring one error over another. Heresy should be confronted no matter how 'innocuous' it may seem. There is no paradise amongst the wolves.
Theognome | Even if that is true, I think it is irrelevant to the subject of the thread... | Recall in the OP- Quote: |
Now come on, admit it: This stuff makes any FV stuff seem like paradise!
| The fact that a denomination is considering the ordination of a woman is something any member here would detest. It's the conclusion statement that I do not agree with.
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Originally Posted by steven-nemes Quote:
Originally Posted by Theognome I don't recall Paul preferring one error over another. Heresy should be confronted no matter how 'innocuous' it may seem. There is no paradise amongst the wolves.
Theognome | Even if that is true, I think it is irrelevant to the subject of the thread... | Perhaps to the stated subject, but not to the matter of the post.
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Last time I checked, not even the FV guys have rejected the infallibility of Scripture, the virgin birth, substitutionary atonement, etc. I would rather fight with those guys than fight with More Light groupies and Shower of Stoles adherents.  | | The Following User Says Thank You to Classical Presbyterian For This Useful Post: | |
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Originally Posted by Classical Presbyterian Last time I checked, not even the FV guys have rejected the infallibility of Scripture, the virgin birth, substitutionary atonement, etc. I would rather fight with those guys than fight with More Light groupies and Shower of Stoles adherents. | I'm not equipped to fight every theological battle that comes to the fray. But at the same time, I'm not equipped to dismiss them as being of little import. My ability and/or preferences does not reduce a threat's malevolence.
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I never sought to minimize any theological debate. Just trying to add a little levity after a long day.
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Originally Posted by Classical Presbyterian I never sought to minimize any theological debate. Just trying to add a little levity after a long day. | And I'm obviously making the day longer, which isn't helping. I do have some fine rum handy... care for a nip?
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Originally Posted by Classical Presbyterian I never sought to minimize any theological debate. Just trying to add a little levity after a long day. | And I'm obviously making the day longer, which isn't helping. I do have some fine rum handy... care for a nip?
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Originally Posted by Classical Presbyterian Last time I checked, not even the FV guys have rejected the infallibility of Scripture, the virgin birth, substitutionary atonement, etc. I would rather fight with those guys than fight with More Light groupies and Shower of Stoles adherents. | I wouldn't. The Federal Vision is much more likely to lure congregants down the broad path than an LGBT rainbow choir. NAPARC churches are losing congregations and members in droves to the CREC, not the UCC. Blatantly exposed wolves are much better than strangely toothy sheep with odd tails.
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Originally Posted by Dearly Bought Quote:
Originally Posted by Classical Presbyterian Last time I checked, not even the FV guys have rejected the infallibility of Scripture, the virgin birth, substitutionary atonement, etc. I would rather fight with those guys than fight with More Light groupies and Shower of Stoles adherents. | I wouldn't. The Federal Vision is much more likely to lure congregants down the broad path than an LGBT rainbow choir. NAPARC churches are losing congregations and members in droves to the CREC, not the UCC. Blatantly exposed wolves are much better than strangely toothy sheep with odd tails. | You have a point, I know. At least these PC(USA) creeps are openly and brazenly apostate. It may be all the easier for other forms of creeping heresy to hide in the FV fallacies.
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I wouldn't. The Federal Vision is much more likely to lure congregants down the broad path than an LGBT rainbow choir. NAPARC churches are losing congregations and members in droves to the CREC, not the UCC. Blatantly exposed wolves are much better than strangely toothy sheep with odd tails.
| Agreed. It's much easier to spot a blatant lie than one that is interwoven with bits of truth here and there.
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NAPARC churches are losing congregations and members in droves to the CREC, not the UCC.
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Originally Posted by Classical Presbyterian I never sought to minimize any theological debate. Just trying to add a little levity after a long day. | After 50+ years in the ABCUSA, I can identify with the stupifying effect of lib-speak so common to the mainlines! Yikes!!! You have my sympathy.
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Although not a perfect denomination I am encouraged by the steps taken by Godly men within the PCA to reform her according to God's Word and protect her from wolves. I can't imagine what it is like inside the PCUSA.
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Makes me glad I'm a 'REBEL'.
I'll be praying for your sanity, Toby.
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Let's see the PCUSA is thinking about allowing homosexual ministers... hmmm, according to my calculations in 10 yrs. the CRC will thinking the same thing....  |
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I wouldn't. The Federal Vision is much more likely to lure congregants down the broad path than an LGBT rainbow choir. NAPARC churches are losing congregations and members in droves to the CREC, not the UCC. Blatantly exposed wolves are much better than strangely toothy sheep with odd tails.
| Agreed. It's much easier to spot a blatant lie than one that is interwoven with bits of truth here and there. | Then why do more people attend these churches than reformed?
Maybe they are unregenerate, but it seems the larger the denomination the more severe the errors.
So Toby why don't you have your congregation switch to another denomination. Do many of the people not see the error? Or just want to stay and be what influence you can?
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Let's see?... Homosexuality, confirmed reprobation... FV, heresy. You decide.
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