A Working Federal Vision Summary from a 1689er
I started working on a very small summary of the Federal Vison from my perspective. It is piece mealed together somewhat but here it is.

The main problem with the Federal Vision teaching for me is the distortion concerning the efficacy of the sacraments and soteriology. (ie. the covenants, baptism, and the Lord’s Table.) Not all FV people hold to the same view of sola fide. Some distort the view of sola fide but most problematic...

In the second segment Paul starts off with his rebuttal with a cross-examination of Gene’s knowledge and doctrine of Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8.

(Heb 8:11) And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

(Jer 31:34) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least...

My summary of Paul Manata's Intro to the debate.

Premise 1. Baptism is for those who enter the Church

Premise 2. Infants of one or more Christian parents are Church members.

Paul discusses the grammitical historical hermeneutic. We both agree on that. Then he makes the point that family plays a BIG role in discovering the truth of what we are looking at.

Then Paul starts to discuss the ramifications of being covenantally cursed and how...

I have decided to finish listening to the Paul and Gene debate and finish commenting on it. I will post my first two portions then start on the rest.


I was commenting as I listened to the debate. so here is the first part.



Well, I have listened to the first few things Gene said and He starts off on a bad foot in my estimation. He stated that Baptism is one of the doctrines that wasn't reformed. And that in itself is a major misunderstanding...

I just thought I would start my PB Blog off with a few of my old comments. So here we go.

Here is a statement a blogger made that I really had a struggle with.

I really have no desire for ***** Baptist Church to be known as "Southern Baptist" or "Reformed." Rather, I would love for us to be known as "Christ-saturated."

While I agree with the importance of keeping the main thing the main thing, I still believe it is important...