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Originally Posted by greenbaggins Fred, I was actually debating in my own mind the very question to which you allude, as to whether Jobes or Grudem should be on there. As to the fact that she's a woman, I have never had a problem with that, since, in my mind, it is no different reading a commentary written by a woman than it is having a conversation with a woman knowledgeable in Greek and Hebrew. One does not have to believe what she wrote. Would you then have a problem with all the (Joyce) Baldwin commentaries I recommended? I found Jobes more helpful than Grudem, especially on the spirits in prison passage, where she takes (rightly, in my mind) Dalton's approach, and Grudem does not. | Lane,
I guess I look at commentaries less for linguistic help than pastoral insight. I know the Greek (after 20 years) but I want help in seeing the text from all angles, with an eye toward exposition and application (a-la Calvin). So I don't want a woman giving me her pastoral insight.
I would likely have a problem with the Baldwin series for the same reasons. I'll have to look next week at Jobes on the spirits in prison passage, b/c I can't recall what her view was. Can you sum it up? I recall that I agreed with Grudem, who agrees with the Reformers, but I could be recalling incorrectly. | Of course I respect that position very much, and I think it is a matter of perception in different people's minds, since I view it as a conversation about the text.
Jobes believes that the spirits are demons (the normal use of plural pneumata in the NT), and that Christ preached to them after His resurrection. | Ok, that is right, and I do disagree. It doesn't make much sense to me when you bring Noah into the passage.
I've preached on that passage, and it think it is actually very helpful with the current "baptism-mania" in FV circles. The text makes it clear (to me at least) that the central point of the passage is about the message (preaching) and not about baptism. Baptism, Preaching and Salvation
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