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Originally Posted by Grymir  Even Dispensationalists don't depart from the historic creeds. At least they don't deny them, and most affirm them.
Now, all dispensationalist are premil, but not all premill are dispensationalists.
I'm trying to figure out how preterists are heretics because the depart from the early creads. Heretics is the key word. Views on the book revelation don't a heretic make. Of course, Sproul is the preterist that I'm familiar with. And premill was a view when the creeds were written. So a good question would be how are full preterists heretics and how is that the same/how would that apply to premill? | From wikipedia: Quote:
Full Preterism
Full Preterism differs from Partial Preterism in that Full Preterists believe all prophecy was fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem, including the resurrection of the dead and Jesus' Second Coming or Parousia. Full Preterism is also known by several other names: Consistent Preterism, Covenant Eschatology, Hyper-Preterism (a term used by some opponents of the Full Preterist position and considered to be derogatory by Full Preterists), and Pantelism (the term "Pantelism" comes from the Greek and means, "all things having been accomplished"). Full Preterism holds that Jesus' Second Coming is to be viewed not as a future-to-us bodily return, but rather a "return" in glory manifested by the physical destruction of Jerusalem and her Temple in AD 70 by foreign armies in a manner similar to various Old Testament descriptions of God coming to destroy other nations in righteous judgment. Full Preterism also holds that the Resurrection of the dead did not entail the raising of the physical body, but rather the resurrection of the soul from the "place of the dead", known as Sheol (Hebrew) or Hades (Greek). As such, the righteous dead obtained a spiritual and substantial body for use in the heavenly realm, and the unrighteous dead were cast into the Lake of Fire. Some Full Preterists believe this judgment is ongoing and takes effect upon the death of each individual (Heb. 9:27).[citation needed] The New Heavens and the New Earth are also equated with the New Covenant and the fulfillment of the Law in AD 70 and are to be viewed in the same manner by which a Christian is considered a "new creation" upon his or her conversion.
Full Preterists typically reject the authority of the Creeds to condemn their view, stating that the Creeds were written by uninspired and fallible men, and that appeals should be made instead to the Scriptures themselves (sola scriptura). | If the only argument for condemning full preterism is because they differ from the creeds, then that argument can be used to condemn as heresy any group (i.e. premills) that departs from the creeds. Scripture itself condemns full preterism, not just the creeds. (2 Tim 2:14-18)
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