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**DMcFadden** · #17 (**permalink**) 07-19-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott1

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2. As a Calvinist you have only two viable alternatives: Dispensationalism (e.g., MacArthur) or Amillennialism/Postmillennialism. Once you see a blurring of the distinction between Israel and the Church in the NT and begin to interpret the OT in light of the NT, Amillennialism (or Postmillennialism) becomes almost inevitable.

While not trying to make a case for or against it, or its strengths or weakeness compared to other views, my understanding is you could also have an historical premillennial view within the "doctrines of grace." A few of the Westminster Divines held what we might call an historic premillenial view.

Yes, Scott, I have been historic premil and learned it from my prof, George Ladd in seminary. However, once you concede that Israel and the Church are not as sharply delineated as the dispensationalists contend, you also find that the amil arguments make a lot of sense. Rev. 20 becomes a kind of odd intrusion into the picture. People like Ladd and Moo sort of posit a millennium only because of a handful of verses in Revelation without being able to deal with it very well.

But, after I began surrendering to the relentless logic of amil, it made me reconsider the similarly strong tendency of covenant theology to produce paedo baptist understandings.