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Old 07-11-2008, 09:58 PM
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Are there any people who believe that the penalty for sin is paid for twice- once when Christ died for our sins and again when some people go to hell? I was just curious because there are those who believe that Christ was actually punished for everyone's sins, but that some people will be punished for their sins in hell. The logical conclusion that is drawn from what they believe is that the punishment for sin is taken place twice.
Yes, there are many people who believe this where I live, although they probably wouldn't put it that way. They believe that Christ paid for everyone's sins, but if you choose not to accept Christ's payment on your behalf, then you have to pay for them yourself forever in hell. So it wasn't that Christ didn't pay for them, but that you refused His payment.
Thanks Kim. You summed up the arminian error quite well. Good Job!!!
I think there's a bit more to add, although most Arminians aren't usually conscious of this, as it sounds much more ridiculous when it is clearly articulated.

Since Arminians believe (along with Calvinists) that men are naturally born in a state of total depravity, they posit that prevenient, or preceding, grace counteracts the effects of sin upon all men's abilities to have saving faith, and that Jesus's death was an atonement for this. Thus, Arminians believe that Jesus's death on the cross atoned for everyone's sins to the point that everyone is born in a state of neutrality (which is philosophically impossible in terms of decision-making, but I digress), where man's volition can take over to reap the rest of Christ's atonement's benefits, or reject them and go to hell.
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