Originally Posted by a mere housewife

I agree with Vic wholeheartedly. This is to pry into the secret counsel of God, and is against one of the main tenets of reformed theology, that of Sola Scriptura. We are given the knowledge that those that come to Christ He will never cast out, and those that reject Him will be condemned. If the person in example two is rejecting Christ then they cannot put this off on God's election. It sounds though like they are despairing and are unable to take comfort in the truths that are revealed because of some superstition about the things that are not; in my own personal experience that is often what happens when we try to approach God via knowledge we are incapable of having rather than contenting ourselves with what is revealed. It's the same in the case with the baby.