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Old 06-27-2008, 11:09 PM
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Neither Judas, nor Simon were baptized.



In what way is this statement true?

In Christ,

KC
Hey Kevin..... What is up? Long time no see or hear from.

I have asked a question in the past that no one seems to know how to answer. I am sure someone has tried but I haven't seen any discussions on it.

Did John the Baptist need to be baptized? Or did any of the Apostles need to be baptised before they could be given the commission to baptise. Was their Baptisms considered Christian baptism if they were baptised before the commission in Matthew 28? I know Murray didn't believe Christian baptism didn't take place before the Great Commission in Matthew 28. Did the Apostles need to be baptised in order to be commissioned to go and baptise? I for one don't think they needed to be.

What baptism was Judas baptised with? Was it a baptism with the commission of Matthew 28? It is very unlikely in my opinion. If Judas was baptised what was his motive and what was he being baptised into or for? Was it his confession that led to a baptism if he was? I would ask that pertaining to any of the Apostles. The only record we have of an Apostle being baptised is Paul if I remember correctly.


One more thing. I like to always remind everyone about the connection between confession and salvation.

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(Rom 10:8) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

(Rom 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

(Rom 10:10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

(Rom 10:11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
I would also like to remind everyone that the early church was overly sensative to baptismal preparation and went to the extreme in preparation for a persons baptisms. Some use to call them exorcisms even. Fastings and catachisms were required along with other things.

While not everyone likes this book it is good for referencing the Early Church Fathers and the practices of the Early Church. It is really depressing how the Church viewed baptism. It is a good read. SGCB | Book Search
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