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Originally Posted by PuritanCovenanter Jared,
If you hold to dispensationalism then you are not a classical premillenialist. And if you are NCT or Dispensational then you do not hold to the 1689 LBCF. Classical premil was Covenantal. Dispensationalism is no where close. It holds a distinct view and makes a separation between Isreal and the Church. | I tend to emphasize the covenants more. I don't really believe in the dispensations, but I find some of the things that Progressive Dispensationalism teaches to be scriptural.
I did not know that you could not hold to the LBCF and be NCT.
How do I fix this problem? Can I still be part of the Puritan Board? | Just like other systems, Jared, NCT has its shades; however, the Puritan Board is Reformed and Puritanesque by confessional standards. The WCF and the LBCF are both Covenantal in nature (although the major differences between the two being Baptism, Sacraments, and Church government). So, while there is room to wiggle here concerning baptism, there's not for non-Covenantal systems.
What I mean is this: It's OK that you don't have a grasp on all things covenantal, etc. It's OK for you to ask questions concerning such. But it's NOT OK to assert beliefs and practices that are contra the Confessions (for example, Amyraldianism, or Dispensationalism, NCT, non-Sabbatarianism). Thus far, you haven't done so, so you're safe. I would, however, encourage you to familiarize yourself with the Confessions and read up on some things concerning NCT and PD from a Reformed perspective. |
I am certainly not an Amyraldian. I have moved away from dispensationalism considerably , but not altogether. As I said, I have moved far away from it enough so as to not call myself a dispensationalist (even a progressive one).
I basically agree with Wayne Grudem's understanding of New Covenant Theology. But his understanding seems to be a lot like John Piper's and Piper basically stands where I do. At least, from what I can tell.
Grudem and Piper teach that there is one church comprised of Jews, gentiles, and believing Jews who were saved by faith in Christ under the old covenant. However, both Grudem and Piper from what I have heard them say believe that Christians should not be anti-semitic and that we should expect a greater number of ethnic Jews to be saved in the end-times.
That's basically where I am on this issue. The people of God are one people. Yet, God is working in a unique way among some ethnic Jews.
Also, I believe that the nation of Israel will have some significance in the fulfillment of end-times prophecy. Not to the extent that dispensationalists do, but I think there is some significance there.
The main thing that I agree with PD on is that the church is the next step in ushering in the kingdom of God rather than a parenthesis in the overall plan of God to save the Jews as classical Dispensationalists teach.