Originally Posted by joshua

Well, I suppose what I'm getting at is this: I detest how "democracy" has pervaded the church. However, I -at least at this point in time- would champion personal liberty in the political sense (i.e. not putting up with tyranny, so long as its guided by another civil magistrate). I would identify (politically speaking, not ecclesiastically) with Jeffersonian ideals and principles for the most part; however, I don't see where it must spill into our ecclesiology. Note: I see how it has, but I don't see that it must. Anyway, at this point I'm rambling.