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Old 06-15-2008, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
The office of deacon is an office of service.

Deacons also have "authority" over some areas. Authority over the lawn maintenance, for example. Or, authority over distribution of the food pantry, for an other example. In some cases they also have "authority" over crisis pregnancy ministries, or counseling young women in other circumstances.

In some cases the deacons will have "authority" of a different type. When chairing meetings or serving on (some) boards. In these cases the office includes *some* degree of authority over men & in those cases women do not (ordinarily) serve.

I am now going to eat a piece of cake.
So in every one of the cases you mention, a woman deacon, including one who (non-ordinarily) serves in authority has authority over men, in direct contradiction of 1 Timothy 2:12. What if the head of the pregnancy help center was a man (as is usually the case for board members)?

Does your translation of 1 Timothy 2:12 say, "not to have authority over men, except in non-ordinary cases, and cases of service" ?
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