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Originally Posted by Backwoods Presbyterian  We have discussed ad nauseum on this board and in "real life" the efficacy of Roman Catholic Baptism and its valid/invalid nature and we all pretty much have our thoughts. However I think more pressing in our time is whether or not the baptism by in an apostate Protestant Denomination should be acceptable? I am thinking here Baptisms done in the name of the Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer (as I have seen done in the PC(USA)) for example. Would you accept that as an acceptable Baptism?
Personally I would not accept that as a valid Baptism. What Say You? |
Hi Backwood Presbyterian! I would not accept a baptism in the name of 'Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer' a valid. Libs/Barthians use that lingo to cover up the fact that they do not believe the trinity. I've even heard of worse. (In the Disciples of Christ Church's). Daniel Ritchie's validity test is real good -
"Originally Posted by Daniel Ritchie
For a baptism to be valid it must have all of the following:
1. By water and in the name of the Trinity - Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
2. Be performed by a minister of the gospel in an orthodox Protestant church (i.e. the visible church of Christ).
Irregularities which do not render a baptism invalid:
1. An ungodly minister.
2. Non-Christian parents of the child.
3. The wrong mode of baptism."
As to the supposed contradiction, there isn't any. My first thought's were about a Catholic, or a liberal minister. If they used the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, it would make the baptism valid, not because of the ministers greatness, but because of God's. It would depend then on the person getting baptized and the power and word of God. Daniel's Validity Test is great because it does not invalidate a baptism that we reformed may debate about, ie sprinkle or dunked, or any other thing.
Southern, Great question. That 'Creator, Redeemer, Sustainer' line makes me want to barf. You should hear it when they use that lingo constantly in sermons, or invocations, or even communion. Enjoy y'all! - Grymir