I could not agree more, theology is either God centric or it is man centric, I have become more and more convinced that calvinism is a logical totality, you cannot lose one element without all the others suddenly losing all meaning.

You can have a bad calvinist but his badnesss is not due to calvinism but due to his human flaws, if someone sees the Calvinistic God as a monster then they should look to themselves, not try to change God to there human image.

It is difficult but I am not sure that I agree with mediation with arminians, as long as they are inconsistent arminians then we can be brothers but we should not attempt to change our theology to accomodate them, if they are offendded then so be it but that is their choice.

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Mike
London City Presbyterian Church
London
England

"Surely, we wish to be orthodox, but we must first learn what real orthodoxy is. Surely, we wish to be progressive, but we must first have a basis to progress from."