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Old 06-06-2008, 11:59 PM
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Shawn,

Before you start new threads about the FV, it might be nice if you actually took the time to understand what was stated in other threads.

Do you really need me to re-type everything about the difference between those that are really united to Christ by faith due to the grace of election? Faithfulness is not something that we maintain in order to maintain a union with Christ that can be broken by Covenant, faithfulness is a fruit of a renewed heart that has been justified by faith alone. The heart of the justified will be faithful and will persevere and must/will avail themselves of the means of grace toward that end all the days of their life.

If you cannot figure out the difference between those two notions after I keep typing them then I don't know why it's so hard to understand.

Let me ask you something plainly:

1. Do you think you are united to Christ because you are baptized but you might lose that union with Him if you do not remain faithful to Him?

or

2. Do you believe that you are united to Christ by faith and that baptism and the Lord's Supper confirm that to you and strengthen you in it toward His service?
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