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Old 06-05-2008, 12:38 AM
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Okay....

Does the text say make disciples by baptizing them? Or does it say go forth and make disciples, baptizing them?


Do you understand my question? I am not sure I am showing the differences in the questions well enough in my questions.

I ask can one be a Christian and not belong to Christ? Can one be a disciple not having been baptized yet?

I think you would respond with Yes to the first and a no to the second question.
NASB
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(Mat 28:19) "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
KJV
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(Mat 28:19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


The text reads "make disciples, Baptizing them. Who are they baptizing? The disciples. Not everyone who is taught.



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baptizing them; not all nations, for the antecedent to the relative "them", cannot be "all nations"; since παντα τα εθνη, the words for "all nations", are of the neuter gender, whereas αυτους, "them", is of the masculine: nor can it be thought that it should be the mind of Christ, that all the individuals of all nations should be baptized, as Heathens, Turks, and Jews; but μαθευτας, "disciples", supposed and contained in the word μαθετευσατε, "teach", or "make disciples"; such as are taught, and made disciples by teaching, or under the ministry of the word by the Spirit of God: Christ's orders are to "baptize": טבלו, "dip" them, as Munster's Hebrew Gospel renders it; that is, in water, which, though not expressed, is implied; for with no other baptism could the apostles baptize: not with the Holy Ghost, and with fire; for this was Christ's peculiar prerogative; but with water, which they in obedience to this commission practised, Act_8:36, and which was to be done
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