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Old 06-04-2008, 11:28 PM
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THE vehicle..

What about those who have faith from infancy.



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I'm just curious though.
Off the top of my head, we can look at this firstly by
recognizing that the Psalmist is not giving us some doctrine
of "paedofaith" here. (Sorry, Rich Lusk) What is being proclaimed
is God's love to his children from the earliest days - and trust
that the Psalmist always remembers.

Secondly, one has to be VERY careful about assigning normativity
to extraordinary cases. The Holy Spirit can and DOES act in
extraordinary ways in individual cases, but His doing so cannot and
must not be treated as an every day expectation for everyone.
In this case, perhaps (though I prefer the simpler reading above,
as I think it is quite common for Biblical writers to express things
that way) the Holy Spirit spoke the Word, in a way that the
infant Psalmist could understand, in order that faith be awakened.
The infant John was in that way awakened prior to his birth, also.

My tuppence.
My

Faith is a gift from God, not an intellectual accomplishment.

Thus...wether it is an infant or an adult, the gift of faith is equally SUPERNATURAL and EXTRAORDINARY!!!

only an Arminian, imo, would assume otherwise.

(I'm not accusing anyone of arminianism...I'm only making the point that faith is supernatural in all cases, and God (His giving of faith) is not a respector of persons)

Note: to clarify....the giving of faith to an adult is just as supernatural and extraordinary as the giving of faith to an infant.
The ordinary way God gives grace is through preaching. (According to the confession) Therefore, it is extraordinary when God gives anyone faith without preaching.