Originally Posted by ReformedSinner

I see many here favors wine and would rather switch to wine. However, do you guys also realizd wine in Jesus' time is heavily diluted with water? Many scholars guessed it's even less alcoholic than beer. (Which many historians now said to be intoxicated one needs to be drinking for many days straight, which is not that uncommon for back then feasts generally lasts 5-10 days.)

Just found this fact interesting because the pro-wine folks like to jest on the "grape juice" folks, but at the end both of them are, well, off the mark.

Originally Posted by etexas

Even Orthodox Jews now make exceptions on Holy Days in regard to wine, those who are able to drink wine do so, if a family has a member with a liver disease, auto-immune disorder or have had a drinking problem, Kosher grape juice is permitted to them. To be frank, I am unsure of why we as Christians cannot use this wisdom. Look, I have NO beef with those who wish to use wine as a part of the blessed sacrament, I just do not "get" the fact that some (not saying all) are so bound and determined that you would rather those of us who have medical problems or other issues drink wine, it "comes across" as if, "I don't truly care if it hurts you! My understanding of the Lord's Supper works like this, so there." Look, I am not being hateful or sarcastic, it just comes across this way at times. I think it says something when the Orthodox Jews have an understanding of the issue and have the compassion to make exceptions where they are needed, and we as Christians cannot. Not sure what it says about us. Grace and Peace in His Holy and Blessed Name.