Originally Posted by victorbravo

Daniel, I don't think so. Check out Lane's post: John Robbins Denounces Experiential Calvinism

Clark's formulation had its problems because it can be easily misunderstood (and therefore can be misleading). Other people don't use language the way he did. I think it causes problems, but I don't think he stands for mere assent to the facts as leading to salvation. The assent has to extend to believing the facts apply to me.

I know the feeling well. For more than 40 years I believed that the facts in the Bible were true. But I didn't think they applied to me. The facts were true things that were good for other people, but I could go my way quite happily.

It's madness, really. I knew I wasn't saved and I was comfortable with it.

Praise God he turned my mind to understand the last link, that I had to believe the facts of the Gospel applied to me. At that point I can say I actually trusted them. It's not a term Clark would use because he doesn't want to make it look like effort on our part. But the end result is just that.