Rob- you said this
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The children of believers were considered members of the New Covenant by circumcisin. The children of believers were considered members of the New Covenant by circumcisin. The children of believers are considered members of the New Covenant by Baptism. Just because the mode has changed does not mean their status in the New Covenant has been changed.
Just because the mode has changed does not mean their status in the New Covenant has been changed.
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Did you mean to say OLD COV by circumcision?
Then you said-[QUOTE] The children of believers were considered members of the New Covenant by circumcisin. The children of believers are considered members of the New Covenant by Baptism.
This is still the main point of disagreement. Randy and Bill have pointed it out already. Only Spirit Baptism does this, water baptism does not.
The view you hold says it does.That is why if you look back at virtually every padeo post, They never mention the new birth,or the Spirit quickening the child.
Yes, when pressed into it they will say something like - of course it depends upon the Spirit's work. Yet when not prompted you rarely will see this highlighted. Salvation is set forth as a methodical step by step procedure,dealing with mental ascent to the idea that all of the "promise" that the sign pointed to, will be just sort of infused into the child- because we cannot tell when where or How the Spirit moves?
Randy correctly pointed out that no child is excommunicated because unless they are born of the Spirit they are not in. It is not physical birth the puts you in,like OT. It is new birth the puts you in in NT.
