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Old 05-13-2008, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by KenPierce View Post
JOel,

Glad you like your seminary.

But, the issue is the public statements of professors and their wives.

Carolyn James: Many are very concerned about Ms. CUSTIS James and her trajectory.

John Frame: Read Machen's Warrior Children, and you'll see why many are concerned about him. He is not himself, FV or NPP, but he is, in classic psychological terms, an enabler to those that are.

Reggie Kidd: Kidd started a firestorm when he started trumpeting female ordination on his blog, in public.

Add to that a professor who was hired WHILE he was under ecclesiastical discipline in California, and I think you can see why many of us might be concerned.

If questions are asked about any seminary, I would be honest in my assessment of them. They are all mixed bags, some more than others, and people need to know what they are getting before they go.
Those positions are incompatible with anything resembling the Reformed faith, and there is nothing wrong with pointing that out to prospective seminarians.
Regarding Mrs. James, I must confess ignorance. I'm not sure why you're upset with her. Dr. James himself is an amazing prof.

Frame: I realize that many in the "confessionally Reformed" crowd are really ticked off at him for "Machen's Warrior Children" and his views on the RPW, etc. I guess I just have a lot of sympathy with what he's saying. As someone who grew up in an intensely "warrior" confessionally Reformed church, I have to be more than a little broken by the incessant warring in the Reformed camp. (Note: I am not saying that issues of FV/NPP are not important, etc, just that it seems to me that in the Reformed camp, perhaps we have warred too much and in the wrong areas, so that when it comes to really important things, some of us are written off as people looking for a fight, and others of us are just fed up with it all).

Kidd: Could you point to which blog post you are referring to? I know he did start a firestorm with his post on "Mutual Defenestration" last semester, and there was a little blurb about frustration with those who are so quick to condemn women who are pursuing truth, but I don't know that he was pushing women's ordination. Perhaps he has said something to that effect somewhere else, but I am not aware of it.

Regarding the other prof, as far as I understood it was a difficult, complex situation. He's an amazing prof, and I confess I don't know too much about the other situation.

I fully realize that RTS-O has some issues. And I am fine with people pointing out their problems with it. But at the same time, there is some strength and help in its diversity. I would be way more frustrated at a place like Greenville personally, though I do think it is a good school and thought about it at one point.
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