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Originally Posted by Poimen  Baptism is an objective sign of proclamation; an open declaration of God's promised signed, sealed and delivered. For baptism assures us that we belong to God's people to whom, corporately, the promises are declared. |
I would like a citation from Scripture that signifies that we belong to God's people because we are baptised. Just asking.....
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Originally Posted by Poimen However there are also curses for those who reject those promises. So truly not every baptized individual experiences what baptism signifies. For the promise must be received by faith. |
That is true whether one is baptised or not. Reject Christ and you are cursed already.
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Thus if we distinguish between the sign and the thing signified we avoid the pitfalls of subjective experience guiding our assurance and objective statements individually appropriated without faith and true repentance.
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I never placed my faith in baptism after I developed a living faith in Christ. I did identify myself as one who believed I was in union with Christ by my Baptism though.
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Heidelberg Catechism, Q&A 66
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Q66: What are the sacraments?
A66: The sacraments are visible, holy signs and seals appointed by God for this end, that by their use He may the more fully declare and seal to us the promise of the Gospel, namely, that of free grace He grants us the forgiveness of sins and everlasting life for the sake of the one sacrifice of Christ accomplished on the cross.
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So does baptism seal us in Christ? Where does the scripture say that baptism seals us in the promise of the Gospel? Or am I reading the Catechism incorrectly?
I have never read the Heidelberg Catechism. Sounds foreign to me. Sorry. I guess I should read it.