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Originally Posted by CalvinandHodges Hey:
Postmillennialists and Preterists interpret the phrase from Peter as meaning the "Elements of Society." That is, that the societal structures which are in place now will be "burned up," and will be replaced by Christ and His kingdom on Earth (the physical heavens and earth will remain the same). Most Postmills understand this as beginning to occur before the Second Advent (i.e. "Golden Age") and then Christ returns to commsumate it all.
Premills understand this occuring after the Second Advent when literally the physical heavens and earth are destroyed, and Christ forms a new heavens and earth. Most Amills view it this way as well, but there are some who hold to the Postmill position. Amills cross-reference the Peter passage with this one in Hebrews:
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the works of thine hands. They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed; but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail, Heb 1:10-12.
Paul, here, is speaking about the physical heavens and earth, because the foundation of the earth was laid, "in the beginning." I think Peter is referring to the same event.
Grace and Peace,
-CH | I am sorry, but where is your reference to Paul? |
Hi:
John Owen does a very convincing job of proving the Pauline authorship in Volume 1 of his Commentary on Hebrews. A few examples:
1) Paul was a Pharisee before he was converted. Consequently, being intimately knowledgeable about the Mosaic ceremonial law, he would be an apt author of Hebrews. This is probably a record of how he disputed with the Jews when he went to their synagogues, Acts 9:22.
2) There are many references in Hebrews that point to Pauline authorship. One example:
Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you. Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints. They of Italy salute you. Grace be with you all. Amen Heb 13:23-25 last verses of the epistle.
Note: The ministry of Timothy was intimately associated with Paul. The Apostle wrote at least two letters to him.
Note: Paul is often sending Timothy on errands, Phil 2:19,20.
Note: Paul notes that he is in Italy - where he was taken to be judged and executed by Caesar.
Note: This is the Pauline ending which he says marks every letter he writes:
The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. 2 Thess 3:17,18
Owen has many more excellent points to make.
Grace and Peace,
-CH