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Originally Posted by mvdm Contact Mid America Reformed Seminary. Dr. Cornel Venema has been giving 4 lecture sessions this April on the topic of pentecostalism, the gifts of the spirits, explaining the cessationist position, the second baptism of the spirit, etc. The last one is tonight, which I will be attending as well. I believe these lectures are made available to the general public, but not sure if it is in mp3 or CD Rom format. | There is nothing in the WCOF denigrating speaking in tongues. The closest thing is in the worship section saying all prayer uttered in a worship service must be in a known tongue. If there were, it would violate Paul's injunction not to prohibit speaking in tongues.
All the cessationist arguments I have studied have been found wanting. The strongest one, which I used to accept, is that tongues presume to be new revelation, and thus violate a closed canon, until a friend pointed out to me that none of the instances of tongues recorded in the Bible contained any revelatory material.  | Sorry, but your friend is mistaken. I would research the matter yourself before listening to what someone told you. Tongues, healing, and prophecy were always connected with revelation. Your position is outside of Reformed orthodoxy. The classical position that Reformed people affirm is upheld by Hodge, Warfield, and many of the great systematicians. The book entitiled, Whatever Happened to The Reformation by Johnson and White shows the classic position. Edward Irving, who introduced much of the modern tongues and prophecy movement, was removed from the ministry in the Presbyterian Church in the middle 1800's for this position. | Can you be more specific? Exactly what is Mr. Haigler's position that is outside Reformed orthodoxy? The fact that 'tongues, healing, and prophecy are always connected with revelation'? If so, how can 'healing' be connected with prophecy?
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