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Originally Posted by hollandmin Hey all,
I'm looking for some good MP3s on the heresy of the second work of grace / Baptism of the Holy Spirit from a Pentecostal position. | Is Baptism of the Holy Spirit heresy? | What he appears to have in view is the Pentecostal teaching that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit occurs subsequent to conversion and is accompanied by visible sign gifts like speaking in other tongues, etc. |
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It is, IMO, an erroneous coding of a spiritual experience. Judged biblically, I cannot find any way to justify the language to explain the experience under consideration. Wrong, harmful, erroneous. I'll leave the parsing of heresy, heterodoxy, unorthodxy, etc. to others.
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Brother, If you have taken any time to see what this position has done to numerous people your stance would probably be a little different. I have had the unfortunate pleassure of dealing with this on numerous occations and seen the devistation of those who just couldn''t be "baptised in the holy spirit" from this Pentecostal point of view. People who feel that they just arn't loved by God and feel as though they're are 2nd class Christians.
If you hold to a second level of Chrisitianity (in this case, the pentecostal believe of "baptism of the Holy Spirit" which takes place post conversion and speaking in tongues is proof of this) I would call this a Heresy (def. any opinions or doctrines at variance with the official or orthodox position). If you would like, I suppose we could call it heterodoxy, if heresy is too stong of a word.
Blessings,