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Old 04-08-2008, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JTDyck View Post
My point is that it was not just of Rahab. Only God is just. But, praise His name, He is also gracious and merciful, even when we sin. It is His mercy that must be our focus... I think we do well to consider Dr. Lee's "Godly Liar's Decalogue" posted above.
You will notice that I said "Even if I am wrong about the Rahab passage..." it wouldn't prove that there is no such thing as just deception because of the examples of people like Jesus, Jonah and God. I feel like I am a broken record since I keep repeating the same biblical examples over and over and yet no one seem to want to touch these particular passages of scripture. For instance, replying to my examples you say, "Only God is just... it is his mercy that must be our focus." How does this respond to my examples? Was it unjust of Jonah to say what God told him to say? Or is he only able to justly say this because God is, to use your words, "gracious and merciful" in regard to the deception? That would make Jonah a sinner for saying what God told him to say. Or was it unjust of Jesus to act as though he was leaving the city? Or is he only able to justly act in this way because God is "gracious and merciful" in regard to the deception? Of course not, that would make Christ a sinner. I know you do believe it was unjust of Rahab say the spies had left the city. I guess I can only assume from your particular language that you would also decry the immorality of wartime deceptions such as spies, camouflage, etc.. But then again, I can't be certain what you believe in regard to the justness of these types of deception, particularly the biblical examples, because for some reason you avoided saying anything about them–except for Rahab. Ok, I thought of a way to express what I am trying to say... see the next post...
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