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Originally Posted by BlackCalvinist I would cite Christ saying that my yes needs to be yes and my no needs to be no and not take an oath. I'd then ask them why they want me to violate my conscience and scripture and take an oath when I've already said no..... | I'm having difficulty following you. Are you saying that there is no place for oaths? What of WCF Ch. 22 (LBCF Ch. 23)?
All this is very interesting. If I understand correctly, both of you are willing to lie to save the Jews, but you draw the line at taking an oath. | WCF 22 lets me off the hook.
III. Whosoever takes an oath ought duly to consider the weightiness of so solemn an act, and therein to avouch nothing but what he is fully persuaded is the truth:[7] neither may any man bind himself by oath to any thing but what is good and just, and what he believes so to be, and what he is able and resolved to perform.[8] Yet it is a sin to refuse an oath touching any thing that is good and just, being imposed by lawful authority.[9]
IV. An oath is to be taken in the plain and common sense of the words, without equivocation, or mental reservation.[10] It cannot oblige to sin; but in any thing not sinful, being taken, it binds to performance, although to a man's own hurt.[11] Not is it to be violated, although made to heretics, or infidels.[12]
Is it good for me to give Jews up to death because they are Jews ?
Then I don't have to take the oath.  | It is implicit in the situation that silence or noncompliance is tantamount to admitting you are sheltering outlaws. I work with kids who go in and out of jail everyday. I know when they are lying and telling the truth.
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