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Originally Posted by victorbravo 
What you and the reformers say makes a great deal of sense to me. I have to admit that I am not a gifted sytematician and am trying to work all these things out.
Let's take the thief on the cross. He was 'saved'. Therefore he was justified and redeemed. He was 'infused with grace'. But can it be said that his salvation (because his converted life was cut short) included 'working out his own salvation with fear and trembling'?
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One could ask if deathbed conversions are possible. If salvation circumscribes both justification and sanctification, does that mean sanctification is necessary for salvation? Can one receive saving faith by the power of the Holy Spirit (thereby be justified), and die before the Spirit starts the process of sanctification, and still be saved to eternal life with the Father?
That is, can one be saved and not sanctified? Is sanctification really necessary for ones salvation?
Does the process of sanctification necessarily begin immediately after one receives saving faith, or might there gap in time?