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[quote][quote=victorbravo;376827] Quote:
Originally Posted by KMK Quote:
Originally Posted by KMK
Just clarify and rework the above in light of the unput of others in this thread could we say that salvation, since it includes justification and redemption, makes it possible for God to sanctify us by infusing us with grace, but it does not include the temporal 'working out' of progressive sanctification? | I don't know, Ken. It seems like you are trying too hard. If you're going to slice off sanctification from salvation, you might as well slice out the others too.
2Th 2:13 "But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth"
Php 2:12 "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."
Both these verses speak in terms of sanctification being integral to salvation .
I think it is far better to simply acknowledge, as the Reformers did, that salvation is used in several ways, all related, but that justification, sanctification, and glorification are properly distinguished from each other. | What you and the reformers say makes a great deal of sense to me. I have to admit that I am not a gifted sytematician and am trying to work all these things out.
Let's take the thief on the cross. He was 'saved'. Therefore he was justified and redeemed. He was 'infused with grace'. But can it be said that his salvation (because his converted life was cut short) included 'working out his own salvation with fear and trembling'?
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