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Originally Posted by Archlute Me thinks you may be confused. What do you mean by moral ruin?
If you mean to say that the effects of the fall have corrupted our natures so that since the fall we "naturally" tend toward a moral depravity, then that would be true.
However, it should also be affirmed that we are ruined before God because of the moral culpability of the imputed guilt of Adam's sin, which would make your final statement incorrect. | original sin is the cause of our moral run that is inherit in all people. Imputed sin is not what ruins us, imputed sin is the guilt or blame that is credited to our account. Imputed sin is outside of us per se'. |
Indeed, the effects of the fall that issued forth from the original sin of Adam corrupts our nature, but its imputed guilt also ruins us before God. I think it may be more clear to speak of the imputed guilt of original sin, rather than imputed sin (as some confuse this with the idea of an infused substance of sin), since it technically was the guilt of that sin which was imputed to us by virtue of Adam's federal headship.
P.S. even though certain translations render Romans 5:13 as "imputed sin", I still stand by the opinion that we should speak of "imputed guilt", as the term "ellogeitai" is an accounting term speaking of the placing of the debt of guilt on the books before God, which is clarified in vv.14ff. The ESV/RSV clear that up some.