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TO ALL - Y'all are pathetic. Nit picking this to death. You know what modest dress is. Usually when people do not agree with modest dress, or try to haggle over the fine points of modest dress, they have ulterior motives, like their wifes don't agree, they like looking, or a host of other reasons. But I also know the ones on this thread, and how you just love to stir things up. (I won't mention any names Pergamum). Modest dress can take both Modern and Older forms. Personally, I like the older forms. When you see such a LADY, you can't help but think "Now there goes a religious woman who follows the Lord!" When I see most attempts at modest dress done by people who don't agree, I can read the "I'm a Liberal" from across the room.
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yes, we do know what modest dress is, and we also know what immodest dress is, I actually like wearing longer dresses that go down mid calf, but the reason in the past that I always wore them was not because of personal convictions, but because of sin committed against me as a child, and being raised to believe it was some how MY fault I was molested. (so even there my motive to dress modestly was wrong).
Yet, I was an infant when it started, how sexual can an infant be? how sexual can an infant dress that would cause a man to lust after them? Men rape women who are not dressed skanky or like hoochie mamma's probably more so than they do those who do dress like that, and in turn the women are still blamed for the rape against them.
I can't tell you how many times I have heard the words "If you wouldn't have done" or "if you wouldn't have been there.." or "if you wouldn't have been wearing..." this wouldn't have happened..I say HOG WASH..Men's hearts are evil and if they have it in their heart to lust or rape or commit whatever sin their heart can imagine, they are going to do just that...no matter what a woman wears or does.
So you see, I know from personal experience it is not how a person dresses that *causes* a man to lust, he lust's because that is a sin he struggles against God with.
It took me a long time to become comfortable wearing dresses that come just below the knee (which my husband prefers) and to become comfortable with who I am as a woman, and not be ashamed of the fact that is how God created me.
I guess that would be my ulterior motive you say people have who argue against modest dress (though I'm not arguing against modest dress, I'm arguing more about the attitude that immodest dress is *what causes* men to have sinful thoughts); men have sinful thought's because the hearts of men are evil.
I also know many women who dress modestly yet don't follow the Lord at all, they do so because it's more professional for their career's.
The point I'm trying to make here is that SOME men will lust after women no matter what they wear and whether or not any skin is showing or not, it is their thoughts that degrade the woman to a mere sex object.
Just as yes, some women WILL dress in order to get men to lust after them, but even that is their sinful heart before God and not seeing themselves as more than 'sex objects' for men's pleasure. They do not see who they are as God's creation, not necessarily God's child (as not all are God's children), but as His creation.