to Rich. It's amazing how most Arminian arguments sound like they've been taken directly out of Romans 9. How anyone can read that chapter and not give up his Arminianism is beyond me. Aside from clearly stating God's sovereignty and the doctrine of election, Paul clearly has a debate with an imaginary interlocutor that would proceed almost exactly like any discussion one of us would have with an Arminian. What more do they want?!

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Husband of Emilia
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Student: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, German Literature and Classics