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Iconoclast · #20 (**permalink**) 03-12-2008, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by holyfool33

In Second Timothy chapter three it says perilous times will come and men will wax worse and worse. How would a Postmill respond to this scripture or the idea of a Great Apostasy?

Many postmill writers take the apostasy warnings to be warning of falling away in the 1st century persecution. The last days being the last days of the Old Covenant age/ not the last days in our day.
If you read the verses dealing with apostasy as being fulfilled in large part by 70 ad, alot of the steam comes out of those who hold to a large apostasy in our day. What verses are left to say it speaks of our days, if MT 24, AND LK 21 HAVE ALREADY BEEN FULFILLED?

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20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

And here?

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28But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.

29For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.

30Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

31For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?