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Old 02-29-2008, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Bartel
If you trust someone, you believe what they say is the truth, no?

Not necessarily. Do you trust your parents? What if they told you Santa Clause was real, and that he has a summer house in Miami, Florida?

Anyway, you can't fallaciously argue from affirming the consequent, so you'd have: "Christian trusts someone for their salvation." This is a rejection of the Clarkian position taken in this thread.

Lastly, my brother is intelligent, and one of the nicest people any of you would meet (unlike me!). He believes that the Bible is God's word. He believes that he is a sinner. He believes that Jesus is God incarnate. He believes that God is a trinity. He believes that God's law represents the best way for him to live. He still rejects Christianity. He refuses to bow the knee. He loves his sin too much. And, he even admits that he's being irrational about it all!

He thus believes the truth, yet isn't saved.

I take it that's case closed...
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