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Originally Posted by Pilgrim  Some of the complementarians with a bleaker outlook are saying they won't be surprised if the PCA fights this battle within a generation due to the "evangelical feminist" influence at some of the seminaries and churches. |
Presbyterians have already fought this battle and lost! Look at the PCUSA! It seems like they have more women pastors than men! (that is conjecture on my part)
I would like to point out that the Vineyard Movement is not 'pentacostal'. They are '3rd Wave' charismatics. They do not agree with the pentacostals that there must be a 'second blessing', nor do they agree that 'tongues-speaking' is a necessary sign of regeneration. In fact, it is my understanding that Vineyard does not teach even teach that a pastor must speak in tongues! (Although, in reality, I would imagine most/all of them do)
Just because '1st Wave'/Azusa St. pentacostals have always ordained women has little bearing on Vineyard. As the article stated, John Wimber, Vineyard's founder, believed that the Bible specifically taught male headship in the church. In fact, Sam Storms article in the OP points out that Vineyard still does not consider itself 'egalitarian'. They simply believe that it is up to the local church to determine who their leaders are. (I know, it sounds like a cop-out to me too)