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Old 02-16-2008, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig View Post
Andrew,
are you really going to let one minutia they can't explain keep you from believing their gospel?
Well, I guess I could take it on faith! I can have faith in the illogical can't I? Then I can mock Christians for being illogical because they don't accept macro-evolution!

Your friend's problem is the problem all of us share; total depravity manifested in man-centered pride. As long as man is king in his eyes, he will believe whatever illogicality will allow him to maintain that. Atheist argumentation is often the most unimpressive. On it's face, it will look sophisticated and intelligent, but when actually analyzed, it's clear they didn't put a whole lot of thought into it, or they were intentionally trying to be misleading or misrepresentative of a position.

Take for instance his assertion that the world is flat in the Bible. I'd like for him to quote the passage back to me where that is said. I can help him out with that before he wastes his time: It doesn't say that. Either he is that ignorant of some of the most fundamental understandings about Scripture, or he knows what he said was wrong, but he was using it as a straw-man that he could knock down to make himself feel better.

No matter how sophisticated they seem, they are emotionally driven, often angry, and extremely prideful. Mock their ignorance and you win the day automatically because they won't be able to hold up argumentation because the reason for their contention is gone, i.e. to support their ego.

The fact that he is a double-major is a non-issue. Some of the most intelligent people on Earth have made the dumbest mistakes when it comes to theism. They degrade into subjectivism and then start reasoning from there, i.e. J.L. Mackie and the problem of evil. Force him into the realm of objectivity and he's hosed. He should be already, because he's relying on logic. Logic is on our side, not his.

Edit: Brian is going to provoke me into breaking open my logic textbook again. I refused to sell it or throw it away. I still have it on my desk and I plan on keeping it to teach my kids.
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