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Originally Posted by timmopussycat
I would say that Paul's role for the moral law in the life of the believer is that of written statement of God's character teaching us what he likes and does not like, so that we may know what things please him so that we may do them and please him and continue to abide in his love.
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Timcat: you have touched on something here that I believe I am missing. The 3rd use of the Law is directly related to the understanding we need it for our sanctification. Why did it take me so long to realize what I am disagreeing with. Sheesh. For justification, I am pointed to Christ alone, the Cross, yet for some odd reason for sanctification I am pointed to Sinai. That once justified by Faith alone in Christ alone, the Spirit who now indwells the believer takes him back to sinai for sanctification. |
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Originally Posted by timmopussycat
I would say rather that the last clause should read "the Spirit who now indewlls the believer takes us back to God's character as expressed through pre-Mosaic teachings, Mosaic teachings and New Testament teachings in order that we may learn how to please God." It is God's character, and not Sinai itself as a system, that is the ultimate source material for the
"3rd use of the law".
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Well your way sounds more pleasing than the ultimate words spoken by many Tim. Are you a spin doctor in the political race?
I will settle for the last one. NT teachings. See it still has God's character revealed at Sinai instead of Clavary only, where Paul focuses on.
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Originally Posted by Amazing Grace Now I know the Law is Holy, but I also know it cannot make me holy. In fact the more law the more I know I am unholy. Doesn't Paul set forth the believer’s RULE OF LIFE in Galatians 6:14-16, "But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk ACCORDING TO THIS RULE, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God." |
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Originally Posted by timmopussycat No disagreement here, but how does the new creature know what to do? and why does he do it? are the key questions. |
Paul says by grace and the Spirit pointing Him to the corss and Christ in full.. I guess what i am saying is I agree with the pedological use of the Law,(Patrick Svensen taught me that word here..lol) And the Spirit is what guides now, not the elementary rudiments in stone. Well that is how I read Paul. I guess I take the reformation warcry of ""THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH." literally in all aspects, including sanctification. Translating it to mean the justified by faith in Christ Jesus, shall live(be sanctified) by faith alone in Jesus. My law keeping is terrible timcat, everytime I strive and look to sinai i live in despondency, my flesh cannot keep it, The emphasis is not "do and thou shalt be sanctified" (the legal formula) but it is this: "You have been blessed with every spiritual blessing in Christ Jesus (Eph. 1:3) therefore walk accordingly by faith. (Eph. 4:1). Romans 7 is a great place for the believe to view how helpless we are. Paul realized it. But paul moved from romans 7 to romans 8 for the cure. .
8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. [1] 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you [2] free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.
Does God intend for me to walk according to Sinai and be miserable all my days? I do not believe that's the intention. Ilove the following from Bunyan.
"Run, John, run! The Law commands!
But gives me neither feet nor hands.
Far grander news the Gospel (grace) brings:
It bids me fly and gives me wings!"
– John Bunyan