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Old 01-25-2008, 01:07 PM
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Elijah must have spent a fortune on getting ready for his gospel ministry. *laugh*
I'm glad you're getting a good *laugh* out of this discussion David. I, however, don't think it is a laughing matter. As a presbyter, I take the issue of preparing men for the gospel ministry extremely serious.

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Spiritual gifts are not dependent on man and his institutions..... If that was the case then the kingdom would have already come by now. That is my point.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said that spiritual gifts are dependent on man and his institutions.

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There is nothing inherently noble about being "completely free" but there is something inherently sinister about peddling the gospel for cash.
I sense an accusation here? Please do elaborate on exactly who you think is "peddling the gospel for cash?" Is it the PCA? Covenant Seminary? Please tell us who!
Pastor,

If you re-read all my posts you will plainly see that I have gone out of my way to be respectful to you in this discussion. I am taken aback at the tone of your last post. If you think I have been disrespectful to you in anyway then I apologize for not communicating the respect you deserve as a Pastor and will try to do better in the future.


I do want to (respectfully) point out in a post in another thread:

PCA's Ministerial Glut

For someone who has been seeking a call, with no geographical limits to the search. I found those statements about going for less money okay providing there was the ability to live. I know one young man who came to seminary with $30K school debt for undergrad and after 7 years of school loans for his MDiv and PhD his debt load has to be over $100K so I think that the cost of the education must needs be brought into the equation.

So again, I ask. Is it right in light of the scriptures to require such a sum of money from someone just to prepare them for the gospel ministry? I would love to be able to train for the ministry but due to monetary constraints (just married, new baby and just adopted my step daughter) I am not able to get the education that is needed. So do I think it is wrong/a sin to charge exorbitant tuition fees? Yes I do. It keeps the poor among you from having any chance at the ministry without having to go into debt. It also keeps those that think going into debt is wrong/sinful to get the required education to go into the ministry.

Do I have any one college or institution in mind? No. Do I think that the current system needs to be reevaluated? Absolutely.

In Christ,
David
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Member of Covenant Presbyterian Church in Oak Ridge, TN (PCA)
Living in Knoxville, TN
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