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Old 01-07-2008, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by caddy View Post
Name a useful scientific theory that includes God in its mechanisms. You said you have a long list, I'd love to see it. So far all the God-following scientists you named seemed to produce only Godless theories.

This question was just asked of me from my unbelieving friend. Help me out here if you would.
1. As mentioned above, the very inductive foundation on which science is predicated is unaccounted for in a random universe. Hume understood this quite well...enough to admit that he could not really know the sun would rise tomorrow. A good listen for your friend would be the famous Bahnsen-Stein debate where Bahnsen asks Stein what the latter's answer would be to Hume...IOW, if a scientist trust induction, on what basis can he/she do so.

2. God is not an answer to any scientific question, strictly speaking. If I hypothesize that the result of a specific experiment will be X, then the result is either X or non-X. Is your friend contending that he needs to find a result where X or non-X equals God? And that this will show that God exists? But the assumption there is that only those things exist that can be demonstrated scientifically. Ask your friend to show you a scientific test that demonstrates that only those things exist that can be demonstrated scientifically and then show him how you are both on the same footing - that is, presupposing the condition of ultimate reality and deducing what is possible from there. At base, you are both very unscientific...it is just that in your case, you admit that where as he won't.
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