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Originally Posted by sotzo Is it possible for a person to want/desire to know Christ as his/her Savior and not be among the elect? | True desire to know Christ for the right reasons is given as the gift of God, through the Spirit. I don't think there can be any doubt about that. Nobody is sent to hell against their will.
However, there are lots of reasons one might want to know Christ as his/her Savior but do so in a way that is self-serving or merely "hell-insurance". Most people don't want to go to hell if you ask them - and I suspect that
many might profess some sort of desire to know Christ (I can think of one person who is in the family of some folks at our church who I think is probably under this kind of a misapprehension). Such folks could be said to "want" or "desire" to know Christ - but their desire, their aimed-for end, is misplaced... and thus they'll not truly know him in a saving way. | You mean, they don't want redemption from sin necessarily...they want to live how they please and then say they knew Jesus to stay out of hell? Is that the kind of non-salvifiv desire to which you refer?
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Christ Presbyterian Church (PCA) - Memphis, TN
I believe that many would find that the heart sings unbidden while they are working their way through a tough bit of theology with a pipe in their teeth and a pencil in their hand. - CS Lewis
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