Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Acts 13:32-33,38 we preach to you the good news of the promise made to the fathers, that God has fulfilled this promise to our children in that He raised up Jesus...that through Him forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you.

That God fulfilled the promises through types is not the same as fulfilling what the promises always ultimately pointed to. Thus Robertson, "The possession of the land under the old covenant was not an end in itself, but fit instead along the shadows, types, and prophecies that were characteristic of the old covenant in its presentation of redemptive truth. ...Abraham received the promise of the land but never experienced the blessing of its full possession. ...The people actually possessed the land during the period of the kings, but their possession never reached perfection." - Robertson, Israel of God.

Indeed, the promised land was never sone little dust bowl.

The land promised to Abraham and to our forefathers, could not have been the land in Joshua 23:

Ezekiel 36:28 "And you will live in the land that I gave to your forefathers; so you will be My people, and I will be your God.

Are we going to live in a small piece of real estate in the Middle East?

Since the land given to our forefathers in Josh. 23 was the complete, final promise (supposedly), then Ezekiel must be referring to us bunched together in the dirt.

Now, I'm afraid someone has confused beggerly down payments with the fulness of the promise

Originally Posted by puritancovenanter

Wow.. this sounds a bit weird. Without having listened I am suspect. Are you sure he didn't say it was partiallly fulfilled? Having not read Joshua 23 I am guessing it is fulfilment of Isreal obtaining Land by your posts. But that is not all of the promises involved. What about the fulfilment of THE SEED? Something sounds amiss. Did Gene have a guest? Was this Gene Cooks view or the guest he had? Sounds weird and limited.